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Totally not a redo If your culture was being represented in a fantasy world, what elements would you like shown? (This is currently what I’m using for reference for the cultures and climates of each nation, please tell me if you notice something wrong—besides the names)
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The origins and history surrounding the names of the Natlan cast, and why not depicting the characters with these names correctly is harmful, a 🧵
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@toii_box I will forever feel bad for the design team working their asses off only for the execs to be colorist asf💀
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@bugadryl why did that take so damn kong
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@PeepawRichter how do i live laugh love in these conditions
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@PeepawRichter is this what we call damage control
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@jobinsluvr the way dehya and sethos both just have tans😭
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@leeknowleum___ there’s also the “no thanks!” app, has all the boycott corps on there to date, can just scan a brand or barcode i believe
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@PeepawRichter hyv is actually the textbook definition of cultural appropriation, and it’s fuckin wild but lowkey hilarious 💀
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@fiinnfrog the art in my head versus my artistic ability
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I would like to preface this by saying I respect all deities, but mainly worship the Mexica pantheon. My hope is that my research has not failed me, and if it has, please tell me so I may correct myself.
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Kachina: A Hopi name, that of a trickster spirit in Puebloan culture. Most Pueblo tribes of NM today still practice Kachina rites. I am not Hopi, nor am I well informed of their cultural practices and dress, so I can’t speak on what Kachina lacks, other than what’s obvious.
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Citlali Her name means “Star” in Nahuatl. I have Nahua family, and while her design is pretty, it’s barely reminiscent of Nahua culture. And while Natlan seems to be going for “tribal streetwear”, there are many ways to do this. Still, it is probably one of the better designs.
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Kinich & K’uhul Ajaw Yucatec Maya name from the 16th century for the Sun God & Classical Maya term for “Divine Lord” I’m not Maya, but making Kinich white and hardly including Maya elements in his design is rude. Maya players, you’re welcome to add on !
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Mualani: The name of an ancient Hawai’ian Chiefess who lived on Oahu. She had Tahitian ancestry, as she was a descendant of Chief Maweke who came to Oahu from Tahiti. Once again, I can’t truly speak on her, but if any Hawaiian players know more, please share !!
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Xilonen Nahuatl epithet for Chicomecōātl, or Cinteotl depending on who you ask. Xilonen specifically is the persona for the harvest, and it is currently her season of worship, as of writing this thread. Chicomecōātl is also the goddess of human livelihood. (1/2)
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Now, I don’t mind her jaguar features. In fact, Chicomecōātl is the wife of Tezcatlipoca, the obsidian jaguar with jaguar familiars. However, Xilonen is full of Brazilian motifs and designs. @DailyNatlanBR talks about this.
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@benny7th now what is this
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@PeepawRichter i genuinely believe when they switched directors they got a racist😭
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@ElvisBadger Kín’ich Ahau is still worshipped today by many Maya, seen as one of the most important to the Maya today. i got a thread abt Natlan, i’d be honored if u’d help share : )
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@DailyNatlanBR Chasca Qichwa goddess of dusk and dawn. She has NOTHING reminiscent of the Qichwa people in her design. Here’s a Qichwa person discussing the disrespect of using the name Chasca but not representing the culture the name is from.
@IntiMewchi7378
@intimewchi7378.bsky.social🔻🆓🇵🇸&🇨🇩&🇸🇩&🇸🇸
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As someone from the culture Chasca is ostensibly supposed to represent, I am disappointed by how predictable this reaction is to such an insult to my people. Not even just my people, my ayllu and even my llaqta.
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@Rayniegirl_ idfk but talked to wolfy and he said his master turned a boar mute because she gave her voice away, and the boar became a mage in the hexenzirkle who only talks thru minds SO WOLFY’S MASTER (i’m assuming alice or rhinedottr) is the reason N is how they are
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@DailyNatlanBR Mavuika/Mahuika Many threads have already been made, my 2 cents as a non-Māori person is they could have at least given her Tā Moko I’ll link a New Zealander’s sentiments about her below.
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Nya/Nick | 🎀💉
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@arianarosariovo Thank you for speaking up about this, you articulated your thoughts very well and I 100% agree I’m from New Zealand and unfortunately Mavuika (should be Mahuika) is very whitewashed and our culture is barely seen through her, the second one is her most popular depiction
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@DailyNatlanBR And last but not least, Olorun, whose name is that of a Yoruba deity. I’ll link a post. because my knowledge mainly consists of that of Mexican peoples. Srsly tho, this post and replies tells you all you need to know about the disrespect 😭
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okay nigerians, from all tribes and you don't gotta play the game what do you think of this design? this is supposed to be based off the deity Olorun in the yoruba religion, he's the supreme ruler and is very important to said culture he's been added to genshin
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@DailyNatlanBR Iansan Do I even need to talk about Iansan…. Ofc I do. However, there are already many threads who speak on her, so, seeing as I’m not as knowledgeable as them, I advise checking those out : )
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to start, i'd like to mention one of the current Natlan characters we have, Iansan As of this time, we only have her name and a sneak peak of her design, which was revealed years ago and will prob be subject to minor changes (like lyneys outfit) Why do i mention Iansan?
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@timelyharmony_ and he said this like right after💀
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@iluznnn @astorphysics omg it’s june killing myself
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@Erbiarts why did i laugh
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@wegontouchugang wait she’s right
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@arokoii no because that pissed me off I just shut down the game🧍‍♀️
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@dailyftwins WHERE ARE THESE PPL COMING FRM
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@ElvisBadger XILONEN TOO😭😭😭 I worship the Mexica pantheon and it’s literally her SEASON OF WORSHIP RIGHT NOW. Yeah her design is great, but it’s hardly indicative of her name in any way😭
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@vianhitz there’s no way they’re serious pls😭😭😭
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@DailyNatlanBR end of thread! And please, if you’re from any of the aforementioned cultures, correct me if I’m wrong or add on your 2 cents
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@NatlanDailyy she lost all her blood circulation tho
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@childescumrade my grandmother slapped me after she saw xilonen, “stop looking at that blasphemous cat dropped in mayo and mustard” worse, it’s her literal season of worship rn😭
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@pushenpotato praying u manifested this💀
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@CeoOfXilonen it’s ok at least they helping us know who to block😔
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@PeepawRichter i love that the person in the gameplay is tryna kill him😭
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@fiinnfrog send them feedback advising they darken the characters! I bring up how by darkening them they make them more marketable for the huge audience that is darker people
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@NGreentail as a purepecha with Nahua cousins, we say ur invited to the carne asada homie ty for doing her justice
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@imawiyisi he also said this tho 💀
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@ufuwonderland @sakura_branches If you don’t try nothing will happen. Keep trying.
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@rekismujer @NGreentail yup! but i’ma elaborate! Nahuatl, one of Centeotl’s epithets Quechua, goddess of dusk and dawn Yucatán Maya, sun god Hopi, trickster spirits K’uhul Ajaw, Classical Maya, “Divine Lord” Hawaiian, High Chieftess of Oahu w/ Tahitian ancestry Yoruba, storm goddess Nahuatl, “Star”
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@S8vekAe @FUSHIGUR0 bedtime story my fav sinner
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@lakelghtlily you can even use the suggestions box every day! (i’ve been doing that every month since i began playing last year in may, and now im upping it to every day💀)
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@DailyNatlanBR I’d like to throw this out here
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@prankishtom @toii_box deffo how the convo goes😭
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@NatlanDailyy wait is that pozole holy shit
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@SmolHooni are you Maya tho🤨because if not you shouldn’t be speaking for them
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@gemme_les_leaks someone told me “it’s like Hollywood representing China with all White people”. We want to see ourselves represented, especially when they share names with our deities, ancestors, and family.
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@PRlNCEOFPOPSTAN @ftmensch i need this to be real
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@selineabanto it makes a lot of sense but does this mean they predicted it
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@H9cgm8yrryLogan tbh I agree, sumeru especially, but natlan and sumeru are both done significantly worse💀
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@GenshinImpact I love Sara But yk what I’d love even more? If Genshin fixed the fuckin Natlan designs
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@toffee_todd i will forever b sad over all of them but layla especially
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@fiinnfrog i like to think haikaveh make people feel good abt their relationships usually cuz they can go “at least we aren’t like goats” and then there’s that 1% where it’s like “why don’t i get to be in a powerhouse relationship:(((”
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@ElvisBadger ofc ofc! it isn’t your fault that cultural knowledge was lost, that’s just how time goes : ) i do hope u’ll be able to learn more : ) (fr tho pls read and share the thread, I try to go into depth abt all the characters and like other threads pertaining to info idk much abt)
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@brokuroos close enough welcome back sunset shimmer
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@carlito_0000 can’t wait for u to see me and jumpscare the internet it’s my goal now
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@childeonmain i love their designs a lot i just wish they had melanin😔
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@sukunapilled “he’s a changed man” he did it for over a decade😭??? old habits die hard and it’s ok to believe the best in ppl but victims hav feelings bro😭😭
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@NatlanDailyy u mean 5.0 natlan right🥹
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@dailysparkle_ sparkle ftw
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@CyYuVtuber Also Xilonen is literally the Aztec deity of the harvest, and it’s her season of worship rn. Also also, CHASCA IS RHE NAME OF THE QUECHUA GODDESS OF DUSK AND DAWN.
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@GenshinImpact Is it really so hard to listen to us?
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@timelynafs sumeru was probably the only place she actually got on my nerves💀 like the racism????
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@KrisComics would u consider redrawing her as hopi?🫣 i think u’d do a wonderful job : )) references if u want art @/gojonanwa n @/toamydee
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i just wanna know why so many people in the design team thought it was a good idea to name characters after gods🧍‍♀️ like at least choose archaic gods, not ones STILL WORSHIPPED. THERE ARE STILL FESTIVALS HELD IN HER NAME LIKE COME ON
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@companiondish ty for speaking abt this dish pls read and share, some of this info isn’t as well known😭
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@erynkisser AND HER KIT IS GOOD TOO
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@gojonanwa YEAHHHHH SHE’S GORGEOUS🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
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@Toeraoz ngl i’ve used him as a flashlight
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@iluznnn @astorphysics WHO FAVORITED THIS😭😭😭😭
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@PallynPalace If we don’t try we’re pathetic enablers so yeah why not
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@rarepairz it’s fanart😭
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@NatlanDailyy I love them all sm but where tf is the melanin😭😭😭😭
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@NatlanDailyy tacos, popcorn, potatoes(??), nachos, mole, but what r cookies doin here
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@JulyDelic it better be
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@monasriel nah i agreed w traveler on that so i was glad😭
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@mihkomehmew this is why i always try to go around them, it’s so obvious who they’re supposed to be😭
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I’d just like to take a moment to say it’s a Hopi dance 😀 (or i’m pretty sure)
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@PeepawRichter i’m indigenous to mexico (purepecha) and istg i’m so pissed off rn💀💀 like hoyo pls get off spain’s d¡ck
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@vannltas they really said “we’ll take ur names but ignore ur culture” like what
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@1_Natlan_Fan do chinese people know what black skin really looks like💀💀
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@Reiiyuumi dull enjoyers count ur days /lh
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@GenshinImpact cool now fix the Natlan designs
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@SteelyDanMxmlst @zeit_sinn wait ur so real but may i add south america as an honorable mention
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@thijikoy r u pushing the sigewinne-is-wriothesle’s-older-sister agenda too cuz if so this is fucking amazing and if not this is also fucking amazing but consider pushing the agenda cuz yes🗣️🗣️🗣️
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@DailyNatlanBR Xilonen is Nahuatl (aztec), Kinich is Yucatec Maya, and Citlali is Nahuatl
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@PutABirdOnItNow @kinichdaily Mesoamerican claymore, essentially. Not ceremonial, more of a war time weapon : )
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@jobinsluvr if they was real they’d have skin cancer😭
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@IntiMewchi7378 By the way, I’m planning to make a thread on the names of the Natlan characters, is it true that Chasca is the name of the Quechua goddess of dusk and dawn?
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@rekismujer @NGreentail btw chat Chicomecoatl is Cinteotl’s mother, but they share the epithet depending on who’s telling u abt the religion
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@HSRAnythingBot brasil what did he do to u
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i will forever use kids mouthwash and toothpaste because “normal” stuff is shit thank you and goodbye
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@PeepawRichter viet racism the wildest thing because many of us are brown they just inject themselves with bleach like homie what💀
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@Minsleif YOU GET IT😭😭😭 also, pls read through and share, you’re one of the most respectful and eloquent Genshin CCs when it comes to culture so pls
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