HCL
10/14/22 - $50/$100
Signaler: Ronnie
Player: Nick Vertucci +$69,725
Signals used
Hand on arm - teammate ahead on street
Hand not on arm - teammate behind on street
Chip shuffling - teammate on own
Accuracy: 84/86 (97.7%)
You must watch the hands if you want full context!
Pardon us for thinking career fish Nick Vertucci's 51 bb/100 winrate over the following 17k hand sample on Hustler Casino Live is improbable. He did say he's been reviewing his hands now that he's playing regularly on HCL. Yea, we guess that probably explains it.
HCL SUSPECTED CHEATING ALERT
8/16/22 - 5/5/100
Signaler: Nick Vertucci
Player: Mars +$53,350
Signals used
Hand on arm- teammate ahead on street
Hand not on arm- teammate behind on street
Chip shuffling- teammate on own
Accuracy: 55/56
see for yourself
FYI we will have full hand history data for every HCL stream ever, as well as LATB and a few others within the couple of days. Based on how hard certain people tried to keep these things from ever getting into our hands, we expect to find some very interesting things in them. 🙂
Hey guys do you think it's a coincidence that RIP & Nick Vertucci are on the same random ass website about "entrepreneurs"? We're not sure what to think, drop us a reply and let us know 🤙🏻
Just so you guys know where all the money is going, these 12 players have gotten ~45% of all the seats available in non-celeb $50+bb NLHE games on HCL. We see one good player on this list, and 11 bad ones who've come out of nowhere, play huge & crush. Who the fuck is Nik Airball?
@DougPolkVids
@berkey11
How does Nik Airball have a job if he's literally free all day every day to play poker? Can we get some details about this job you allegedly have
@nikairball
? If your money isn't coming from your job, where does it come from? You were a 5/10 player prior to HCL & a losing one.
If DGAF had a true winrate of 170 BB/100 the probability of him winning at rate he has in the 2 seat over the last 4 hours of each stream would be ~ 1 in 1,000,000
439 BB/100
Seems totally reasonable because:
deep stacks
"DGAF's aggressive style"
"how soft those games are"
You can't make this stuff up 😂😂😂😂😂😂
NV Real Estate Academy Poster:
"Successful people are the ones who are breaking the rules." - @ NICKVERTUCCI
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😆😆😆😆😆
@PokerNews
@Angelajordison
@Mawkswell
This is why people keep cheating in poker. Egregiously cheat and get caught, nothing happens. No problem just keep playing. What a joke.
If you want to know more details about how we found and tracked teams using signals with our app created by
@VertucciFiles
, here's a short video from earlier of him explaining. We highly recommended you watch it if you are interested in the signalling we are exposing.
If the eleven members of our group each had a nickel for every time one of us has been gas lit in the past six weeks we could buy Hustler Casino and turn it into a litter box for homeless cats.
No big deal. Just Eric Persson telling Ryan Feldman on WhatsApp to make sure his chip stack shows more than 948k. Coincidencentally, we're sure, Eric had side bets with players who weren't in the game that night regarding his total win/loss amounts.
It's honestly frightening how many of you think it would be difficult to cold deck hands if you've got the owners, production team, dealers, and multiple players in on it. Even more so when the shuffle machine is below the table between the dealer and seat 1. Incredibly naive.
It's amazing what a handful of autists working together 24 hours a day 7 days a week for 4 weeks straight can figure out. Especially when it's all on video & they've been given tons of insider information.
🌐♣️🏆 Fans Choice: Best Hand - There was only one hand the entire poker community talked about last year: Robbi
@RobbiJadeLew
Jade Lew's wild J4 hand
#GlobalPokerAwards
wInNIng 50 bB/100 iS eAsy iN GaMEs thAT SofT
Oh and btw since most of you aren't even aware, Alan Keating in reality is a professional poker player & all of his money has come from playing poker. Trust us, we would know. He's not the investor whale they want you to believe he is
Watch DGAF play on the beginning of streams up until he leaves the table for the first time. That is the real DGAF. The things you're always hearing HCL commentators say about him being a second-half player are absurdities. Poker players play worse the longer they've been playing
We agree on almost everything you said yesterday
@OnlyFriends_Pod
If you want to know how we arrived at any of our numbers all you have to do is ask! If you thought we'd calculate the bb in 5/5/100 games as $5 LOL!
Oh, and btw it was us who tweeted the Vertucci quote not him 😀
The only place we've ever seen or heard of having shuffle machine off table to the side of dealer was at Prime Social in Houston where they got caught using them to cheat not long ago.
@DColpoys23
@PrahladFriedman
The people in our group consider ourselves to be fairly smart, and we still cannot wrap our heads around some of the names that we now know to be involved. One person in particular will absolutely rock the poker world and flip it upside down when people find out.
For anyone out there who still thinks HCL is a legitimate business, would you please show us a breakdown of exactly how you think they're making money.
[All known revenue minus costs of production]
Very interested to see how that's possible w/out a massive hidden revenue stream
How funny is it that a long time admitted card cheat was brought in to run LATB after Ryan Feldman left. Oh, but he went on Joey Ingram's pod and said hey guys you can totally trust me now! I've changed! so it's probably fine. 🙃
@haralabob
Thank you for pointing out the obvious that basically everyone else in the industry has been blindly ignoring regarding Stuey for nearly 30 years now. You a real one for speaking out about this Bob.
Here are 6 teams who had one player signaling the other throughout an entire HCL stream w/ >90% correspondence between hand strength & signal.
In addition to these we've found many more w/ >90% signal reliability. All will be released unredacted with HH data in the near future.
Hey guys, wanted to see if some of you do us a favor. We need total wins/losses by seat number calculated for all HCL streams since mid Dec 2021. Our hands are full with other things atm, but anyone who can help with this we will consider an honorary group member! 🙏🙏🙏🤝🏻
We will update with the exact numbers once we have the hand histories for all Hustler Casino Live streams as well as LATB and many others which will be completed and delivered to us sometime within the next week.
@tigerskintim
Common knowledge among OG high stakes professional poker players. You really think a desperate coke head suddenly shows up wearing purple fucking lenses and god modes the biggest prize in poker at that time purely by coincidence? Wake the fuck up brother.
It’s taken far too long, but finally some truth is being reported by mainstream media. Absolutely no game using a Deckmate 1 OR 2 is safe. Avoid them at all costs.
@TuckonSports
@BartHanson
You're a pretty good player. Nick Vertucci never has been for his entire life until he started playing on his own stream. How many guys suddenly go from losing entire life to crushing overnight?
Online poker pro "Buttonclickr" lost a CRUEL cooler and an $870k pot to
@nikairball
on Friday's
@HCLPokerShow
stream. Find out how it all played out here:
@JohnnieVibes
@PrahladFriedman
Cause you don't cheat every hand or even every stream if you don't want to get caught. Mike Postle's are 1 in a 1000. The rest don't win every single hand when they are cheating. Why is this so hard for someone who is a professional poker player to understand?
Hi
@pokergfx
, is this true about running poker gfx in test mode? If not, could you please contact us privately to clear up this little misunderstanding? DM's are open. Thanks.
Phil, Robbi aside, can you please look at this session and tell us whether or not you think cheating was taking place here?
If you don't think this is proof of cheating, can you please explain to us how this could ever happen if they weren't cheating.
To sum up:
1) Would bet on no cheating if forced to bet
2) Investigation didn't impact me much
3) Time with no proof of guilt coming out did most
4) I hold this opinion w/ very little confidence & wouldn't have shared if you hadn't asked.
5) Robbi should be treated as innocent.
Also, basically every player who makes YouTube content has crushed on HCL. To be very clear, we are not implying any of these people were cheating or involved in wrong-doing. But like come on, how insane are these numbers? Just another incredible coincidence involving HCL!
@MrHeavyMetaI
Literally no one in our group knows them or have ever had any personal dealings with any of them. Our vendetta if you want to call it that is simply due to watching players being cheated out of money.
@BartHanson
@PhilGalfond
@HCLPokerShow
Serious questions for you Bart: How much does HCL pay you to commentate? Do they cover your travel expenses? HCL averages ~ $1k per day in YouTube revenue, how is the show making money?
@JBPVFM
rake: paid to casino
Youtube views: $275k-$400k ABSOLUTE MAX
WPT partnership: few hundred k max
dealer tips: absolutely zero
Spin-off podcasts: lol
Cost of producing streams: $250/hr minimum
We'd love to know what they pay for that space too!
@Joeingram1
@winkle_craig
Saying you don’t really care now is an odd thing to say for someone who almost entirely made their name in poker world from Postle investigation & then much more so the Robbi j4 investigation. Let’s be honest, very few people knew who you were pre-cheating/scandal investigations.
@BorgataCrusher
Well, theoretically, you could set up cold-decked hands prior to a game and rehearse them off-site so everyone knows what's happening when the hand is dealt. But surely a dealer known as 'magic' would never be involved in such a thing like that. Seems unlikely. 🙃
@ROWDYROWDINGTON
@Joeingram1
@berkey11
The 11 members of our group have been playing poker for an approximate 150 years combined and we would tend to agree with your assessment.
@whoisalexjacob
@bud_lavassani
@GmanPoker
Alex, I know first hand from someone close to her that she only said she had j3 after the fact cuz Feldman told her that in the huddle w him and Garrett post incident and to just say that's what happened. So then she started saying it but kept flip-flopping cuz that was a lie.
@whoisalexjacob
Garrett didn't leave he was booted. We are not accusing any of the above of wrong-doing. The above tweet was to show that the idea of these games being so incredibly soft is inaccurate. The Keating stuff was mentioned so people would understand that he is in fact a good player.
@limonpoker
@GmanPoker
Maybe because the audit was total bullshit? They never even mentioned all of the anomalies with the Deckmate and dealing of cards during that session. Red light is seen flashing indicating the deck is off and they just completely ignore it and keep dealing from the same deck??!?
HCL SUSPECTED CHEATING ALERT
8/16/22 - 5/5/100
Signaler: Nick Vertucci
Player: Mars +$53,350
Signals used
Hand on arm- teammate ahead on street
Hand not on arm- teammate behind on street
Chip shuffling- teammate on own
Accuracy: 55/56
see for yourself
@PhilGalfond
How does a two and a half month investigation into potential cheating in a poker game not investigate the dealers or even mention them at all? How does it fail to mention the flashing red light on the deckmate being completely ignored by the dealers & staff?