BMSG's Foreign PR Manager (self-proclaimed) | President of the Koala Shunty Nation ๐จ
BMSG ๐ฆ|๐ฆ|B:F ๐ข๐จ|MZ๐ฆโ๏ธ.
This world โ playground, do what u like.
BE:FIRST's success can NOT be conceptualized without SKY-HI. He is the 8th member. There is no BE:FIRST without him. Their success and achievements are just as much his as they are theirs.
jpop is community based, you need others to survive... if you're not involved in the community of a group that you want to stan, you won't get very far
unfortunately jpop is not a solo endeavor, unless you're in japan lmao
Jpop isn't that hard to stan actually... you just need to stan the right agency or find friends that can share the contents with you
we strong together
when people say they aren't into beef's music i'm like what........ part because they make a lot of very different music, you don't like absolutely any of it? ๐
like Shining One, Mainstream, Smile Again and SOS are all wildly different songs lol
It has been such a hard week for bestys, the boys getting attacked from multiple angles and by different people, even from the inside... and yet we handled it with so much grace and supported each other through the mess. It truly is a fandom built upon bricks of love.
Not only do LA atinys get to see BE:FIRST, they get to see the best version of BE:FIRST... the one where they know most people watching in the crowd don't know them and give their 300% on stage
Ohh time for a history lesson bc I think many don't know this!
"Dance&vocal groups" exist bc Johnny's automatically blocked from media any group that defined themselves as "idol". That's why originally d&v groups had 2/3 members who sang and the rest just danced.
(1/?)
The cultural shock I usually hear from kpopers to jpop:
"They're not an idol? They're a group that sing and dance right? Why it's not make them an idol??"
'...That's exactly, they're just a vocal and dance group. Under 'musician' category'
"WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE??"
really happy about this tbh it was about time
both the company and us have put up with a lot of unnecessary hate over the years and while the general policy of "ignore" is good, the last little stunt was way, way too much. if hidaka is reacting you know it was really bad.
They're right!
It's very very hard to find international bestys. For some time now, I've been the one mainly in charge of finding foreign bestys in the wild and bring them into the fandom and it is HARD to find new people.
This also happens with the radio requests. (+)
no i would say jpop fans' biggest fear is the january-february window when the contract expiration/renovation period is coming up in march-april and graduations/disbandments are announced left and right
every day you wake up to a different idol announcing their graduation
So I can't dance because I tore a muscle in my leg, but my best(y) friend and I decided to throw this together in like 90 minutes between learning the choreo, outfits and makeup ๐
we had a lot of fun so we might make more ๐
#MAZZEL
#MAZZEL_Vivid
#Vivid
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#vividchallenge
i know i've said this 1000 times and it's annoying but it's really fucking crazy to me that i've been in the BE:FIRST journey since THE FIRST started airing and it was absolutely flopping with the japanese audience to NOW THEY'RE GOING ON A DOME TOUR
2024 ATEEZ WORLD TOUR [TOWARDS THE LIGHT : WILL TO POWER]
IN LOS ANGELES
2024.07.20&21
Los Angeles "BMO Stadium"
BE:FIRST
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#ATEEZ
#TowardsTheLight
#Will_To_Power
#BEFIRST
i guess j-bestys would be seeing the english thing in a different light if they saw what we international fans see (international fans of other acts making fun of martin's english)
"I think the most ideal thing would be for BE:FIRST to make Japanese music recognized around the world, rather than for BE:FIRST to go global"
Sotaaaa๐ฅน๐ฅน๐ฅน๐ฅน
Happy birthday sweet baby koala!! It's been such a privilege to see you grow as an artist and as a person these last few years. I hope you have a great day surrounded by people you love ๐๐
#SHUNTO_HBD_21st
#HAPPYSHUNTODAY_2024
Thank you to all ai who have welcomed our firecracker Ryoki so warmly to your boy's house and life ๐ฅฐ
Here's to many more collabs between them and NCT127 & BE:FIRST โค
#YUTAatHome
#YUTA
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#NCT127
#YUTA
#ใฆใฆใฟย ย ใ
#BEFIRST
#RYOKI
#ใชใงใฆใญ
atp i don't know if j-bestys are actively going through my replies to atinys' tweets and liking every single one or what's going on but thank you for recognizing my missionary work lmao
some of their best work in their careers so far is in this album. vocally speaking, they've never been better. i am amazed.
congratulations on the release! you really grew (up) a lot since BE:1 ๐ฅบ๐ฅบ
y'all don't understand how privileged you are..... we have never heard manato speak this much english before LMAO
(or speak this much at all dsfsdfsff)
"I've been solo for years" if you ever consumed anything that didn't come from an official source (fan updates, translations, geoblocked and/or paywalled content shared under the table) the community has served you, even if you didn't directly interact with it.
i swear to god some j-fans get caught up in the stupidest little things when it matters most i beg y'all to put that energy towards something that is more productive/matter more and stream blissful ๐
@orphicflowers
The problem is that many new fans haven't watched THE FIRST yet so they don't understand just how DEEP the bond is. He is really not just any CEO.
And he also tends to downplay his own role ๐คฆ๐ปโโ๏ธ๐คฆ๐ปโโ๏ธ we literally wouldn't be here without him
@lovlyjinwoo
omg yes hi!! i started calling him that in 2021 and other international bestys liked it too. just like 2 days ago i got japanese bestys to start using it as well๐ฅฐ im over the moon lol
it's mostly because he sleeps a lot, eats a lot, and constantly clings to the other members lol
@SkyHidaka
And be proud of yourself, too. You did this, and continue to do it, against wind and tide, against all odds.
And the world is gonna know your and your boys' names ๐
ryoki's english is MORE than enough to communicate with us fans. we appreciate him and thank him for working so hard. it means the world to us.
but if he wants to start using it professionally, in settings where non bestys will find them, it needs to be better. that's how it is.
DA PUMP, w-inds. & EXILE were the pioneers of this format and the blueprint in the late 90s and early 00s.
As time went on the division stayed and new groups like Da-iCE, Bullet Train and GENERATIONS were created in the early 10s.
Even if it's not as common anymore and nowadays +
anyway, all of this to say:
please listen to overseas fans sometimes. we don't just say whatever. we see how things are different and what needs to be changed and improved for the boys to be successful. both sides of the fandom are necessary for the boys to be a success.
A reminder that JO1 is blacklisted as is every other male idol group in the industry
Please don't get disappointed and frustrated so fast, everything is going to be harder and take longer for them but it's not impossible because they are lucky enough to be with a big agency
Sukai's Kunchikita lineup:
-Sukai
-Ren
this boy has the biggest crush on Ren I swear to god
then Yona said "with the same makeup, the same hairstyle, the same clothes...? doing the kitsune sign?"
JO1's member colors ๐
โก๏ธ a (hopefully helpful) thread on what member colors mean in the J-pop world and my choices for them
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SHUNTO's emoji should be a koala instead๐จ He's so cute and clings to everyone! Doesn't it fit him?
It's so perfect ๐ ใใ ใใฆใใณใขใฉๅฏๆใใ! ๐จ๐
BE:FIRST / Gifted.
#BEFIRST
#SHUNTO
#ใทใฅใณใ
SHUNTO's emoji should be a koala instead๐จ He's so cute and clings to everyone! Doesn't it fit him?
It's so perfect ๐ ใใ ใใฆใใณใขใฉๅฏๆใใ! ๐จ๐
BE:FIRST / Gifted.
#BEFIRST
#SHUNTO
#ใทใฅใณใ
So when you look up "be first" in english, all sorts of tweets not related to BE:FIRST come up, so you can't use that method to find new people.
The international fandom is small, but we're trying really hard to make it grow, so we'd appreciate those little gestures ๐๐ป
Realistically I know people follow idols for many different reasons and not everyone does it for the music and that's perfectly fine, but this still made me feel a bit sad
honestly it's a pretty good time to become a jpop fan lol we get so many interactions and collabs nowadays and things are more accessible than ever
it was nothing like this just 2 years ago๐
I know j-bestys are very eager to request them on foreign radios, but oftentimes the
#BEFIRST
tag, when filtered in english, only shows the radio request tweets and we can't find new bestys that way either.
Remember, the tag is all we have, because "be first" is a common phrase(+
@mingifixn
They are!! I absolutely recommend checking out their live performances on their yt channel and their dome concert on amazon prime video if you have it ๐๐
@BEFIRSTofficial
@aaa2022_jp
Thank you boys, you did your absolute best. You handled the technical difficulties to the best of your abilities and gave 120% as you always do. When you sing live, things like this are bound to happen
We bestys know you and will always stand by you, so don't mind the haters โค๏ธโจ
this is so interesting because jpop twitter in general is extremely isolated from one another like everyone stays in their own little bubble and does not go outside of it
there is little interest in knowing what other parts of the industry are doing, no exposure to other artists
Ok I donโt want to get ratioed for this but do modern Johnnyโs fans exist? Like a side of jpop twt thatโs just for Johnnyโs? I donโt think Iโve seen a casual tweet abt them in my life this isnโt a drag Iโm just wondering if they have like annoying 15 year old int fans at all
@xdincaity
hii!! happy to hear that you enjoyed the show!!
they performed these as openers:
idk what kind of music you usually like! they do a lot of different genres so there's something for everyone for sure (pop rock, pop, hiphop, r&b, mid tempo ballads, etc!)
it's through constructive criticism and feedback that we, as humans, can grow. if we're overprotective of others and complacent, we don't learn, we don't grow, we don't improve, we don't change.
and not changing is what led the japanese entertainment industry to this state. so.
not only will bad english potentially get them made fun of by non-fans, but it can seriously get them in trouble. they could say something thinking they're saying one thing but it comes across in a different way because of grammar. i can not emphasize how dangerous that could be.
Most groups are "normal"= everyone sings and dances, the term idol in Japan is still mostly associated with Johnny's and the media uses dance & vocal for everyone else. You'll also see "boy group" used for example, but probably never "idol group".
(Female groups have no issues)
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Lastly, for seasoned BESTYs, quote this tweet with fun facts about BE:FIRST or any information that you think new fans should know about the boys!
And new BESTYs, quote with any questions you might have. Don't be shy, we love to talk!๐ซถ
#BEFIRST
#BESTY_GLOBAL
Due to this, some male focused agencies stay clear of the term idol like it's the plague (EXILE groups are famous for this) and insist they are not idols.
BMSG for example doesn't mind labels and believes you can call their groups anything you want because what matters is quality
and back to the specific topic of english, i speak for all of us when i say we don't care of the boys speak it or not. we don't expect that from them nor need them to.
but if they want to use it in a professional setting beyond communication with fans, it needs to be decent.
@SkyHidaka
as long as you guys have each other, I'm sure you will be happy๐๐ป
BMSG fans also will work towards making each other happy ๐ฅฐ
but please remember to rest and take care of yourself๐ฅบ healthy body, healthy mind!
I'm so emotional somehow this feels like the culmination of all their efforts
I've been here since the journey started with THE FIRST back in April 2021 and I believed in these boys and their dad every single step of the way
#BEFIRST
#THEFIRSTTAKE
#ByeGoodBye
Happy 4th anniversary, BMSG!
On September 18 2020, SKY-HI founded BMSG.
From 2 artists, 3 staff members and a first year barely above red numbers to 33 artists (5 soloists, 2 boy groups, 13 trainees + an upcoming girl group), over 60 staff members and their own building!
#BMSG
anyway, all of this to say, it'd be good if the locals listened to us sometimes.
the boys don't have to change anything about themselves to make it abroad. but the world works very differently to japan and some things can be improved very easily.
JO1's first dome concert.
It's time for Sukai's solo.
The crowd goes absolutely wild but there is not a single glowstick in sight because the dumbass chose black as a member color so he sings to a sea of nothingness.
it'd be really nice if the local fandom took our opinions and knowledge of how things work seriously. the boys want to go global, and as a collective fandom, that's our goal for them too, no matter where we are.
to achieve that, everyone's experiences and opinions are important.
I want y'all to be VERY careful on how you're going about building this community.
A fandom where people don't feel safe respectfully expressing their opinions and takes is not a good, friendly, welcoming place.