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@echo_grayson
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8 months
'ten doesn't have to enlist he should have waited' is so fucking entitled because he already waited and he already went through multiple hiatuses that added up to longer than enlistment
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@echo_grayson
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9 months
all the hate he got last year because they used his name to shield others and all the hate he got when the fancon was announced because he was 'stealing' from someone else and people still have the nerve to act like fans are overreacting
@TENsfeed
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9 months
Ten started hinting since January 2023 and SM posted in their youtube channel on February 24 which mentions that Ten will release a solo album in 2023 and then they took his name off from the plans the following months and the rest of the year. They sent the news about the album
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@echo_grayson
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8 months
Ten sold about $600k of his own merch designs unassisted by the company, oversaw the planning and execution of the pet merch where he was uncredited, and just had two art pieces in an exhibit. This is who they're calling uncreative.
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@echo_grayson
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24 days
fansigns are fanservice, you're not special to them and you don't own them because you spent more. if you don't feel you're getting your money's worth then stop buying instead of throwing a fit.
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@echo_grayson
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9 months
Blame Ten for debuting in February when Ten was the one announced first, blame Ten for having the first solo when their fave is the one who actually got it, blame Ten for stealing a solo fancon when their fave is having his own concert anyway.
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@echo_grayson
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9 months
One thing I want from so10 is for Ten to finally be officially credited for his contributions.
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@echo_grayson
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8 months
the idea you can't be praised if you didn't write the song is so funny because you'd never say an actor wasn't good because they didn't like the script. or wouldn't say they didn't make movies if they didn't write the script.
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@echo_grayson
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8 months
10velys can we please stop comparing? I know the company is shit and isn't handling this as they should but all you're doing is giving the most hateful and annoying freaks reason to be in our business.
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@echo_grayson
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6 months
Ten should be a full time soloist actually. Well meaning or not every time y'all do this people get weird towards him on both sides.
@EROOTlKAPOOD
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6 months
im drunk enough to tweet this BUT I THINK TEN SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDED TO 127 boom i said it
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@echo_grayson
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2 months
ftb season 2 they announced Ten was returning as mc, announced yy as a contestant a bit later, then announced yy wouldn't make most of it so ten would be a contestant in his place. A group fan base translated in such a way it got ten attacked and accused of stealing yy's job
@_bmsk
bim
2 months
Terlepas dari WayV keluarga. Gue bener2 degdegan tiap Yangyang ada project berdua sama Ten Hyung. Inget pas food battle truck dulu gak? Akgaes ngehate YY habis2an gara2 mereka salah paham merela kira Ten hyung yang harusnya jadi MC malah jadi peserta gara2 YY ga dateng day1
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@echo_grayson
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7 months
"He has more friends to do challenges with" okay and ten has more people inviting him to their show so what's the problem
@haruharu_exo
TEN - Nightwalker (🐱💜) | waiting for SO10²
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@echo_grayson
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1 month
I wish Ten was selfish
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@echo_grayson
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1 year
People are reacting to the physical actions in the clip, which is Ten moving away from someone trying to put their weight in his thigh/knee. Op wasn't being hateful they just want them to be more careful.
@_pxaxnxg
YOUNG_B ft. SO10 ²
1 year
อย่าเล่นอะไรกันแบบนี้ได้มั้ย ขาข้างขวาคือด้านที่เตนผ่าเข่าไม่ใช่หรอ อันตรายมากนะ ถ้าเตนมันไม่ปัดแล้วมันเกิดผิดพลาดขึ้นมาใครจะรับผิดชอบ ก่อนจะทำอะไรทำไมไม่คิดให้ดีก่อนบ้างอะ
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@echo_grayson
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8 months
@smtruethailand do something about the slander and lies to your only Thai artist both here and on weibo
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@echo_grayson
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7 months
why are you giving your fave credit for an obvious michael jackson influence especially when the songs don't look or sound alike? wouldn't know copying if it clubbed you over the head.
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@echo_grayson
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9 months
Ten deserves the solo and tour more than anyone, just like he deserved those stages for pmn, and deserves the be the on dance shows.
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@echo_grayson
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22 days
They'll always try to make him look small. No articles on the main acc like there is for others, no open event like others, no interview or guesting like others, reduced capacity when he's sold similar with multiple times that recently.
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11 months
during phntm there was a whole reddit post complaining about the amount of comments he got. it stayed up for months before being deleted and many of the responses were sympathetic to op. in every youtube video there's people complaining even saying talk about others and not him
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@echo_grayson
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1 month
You follow kun akgaes who dragged the group for not tagging him in ig. You follow someone who said wayv should be chinese only. You follow ot4. Don't mention ten as if you care about him.
@frankuncean
kurapika 🧸🌸
1 month
man i wasn't gonna say anythin bc ive said this a billion times but feel bad for tn bc he has the most annoying fans in the world those bitches are so fucking miserable all the goddamn time it's insane which is crazy bc tn is all peace love be nice and they can't even follow that
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@echo_grayson
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9 months
Their fave has has 7-8 years of being pushed as the face of the brand, regular promotions, actual career stability and they're still mad over a dance show, 4 stations, 4 stages, and a fucking interview from someone who has maybe 2-3 years active in total.
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@echo_grayson
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2 years
sm needs to start giving him his choreography credits though because I am tired of people acting like all he can do is just dance nevermind that that's more than enough and that their faves wish they could dance like him
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@echo_grayson
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7 months
not sure why ten's even in this but everland wasn't promo at all it was him visiting his art in the exhibit, am plaza was wayv promo, everland was by key's invite not sm, odg was with minnie because they're both thai idols. is sm is responsible for him being thai now?
@Ani_ty0123
Ani0123🌹🌺
7 months
TAP promotion!! SM gave less promotion than Shalala... But Tyongf has worked hard to make TAP successful... Yoshiyoshine~~ #TAEYONG #태용 #TAP #TAEYONG_TAP
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@echo_grayson
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8 months
sm to ten 'we'll let you have a solo album but we won't stock it so the sales will be low and we can tell you its your fault.'
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@echo_grayson
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11 months
please don't interact with them because it's what they want just report it
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@echo_grayson
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2 months
your fave jealous and bitter like you?
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@echo_grayson
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20 days
His fans supported the group the most and were constantly told for years how they weren't wanted or needed. Any complaints they had about management were dismissed because it was him. Were told how everyone was so much better that he wasn't needed and he didn't belong anyway.
@TENTHElST
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it's crazy that they don't consider how he feels literally ever but it's fine after this tour is over OUR fandom will be doubled anyways 🫶
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@echo_grayson
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5 months
I'm still annoyed he didn't get to do any Thai promo for his solo.
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@echo_grayson
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1 month
what I don't get is the one with ten on their account standing by their friend there and so many ten biased group fans are just like them. will say so much about his akgaes but support and defend their akgae buddies
@tenleeprotect
TEN PROTECT
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BLOCK AND REPORT
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@echo_grayson
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7 months
If Ten shouldn't be on Korean tv shows why should their fave be on a Thai Chinese one?
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@echo_grayson
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1 year
just because ten didn't write his stations doesn't mean he didn't participate in the creative process. styling, concept, and choreo are all part of the package and he's participated in some way with all of them.
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@echo_grayson
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1 year
Wayv fans have been homophobic and racist to tn for years, where's the other members statements on that?
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@echo_grayson
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5 months
Ten is the best dancer there and no amount of calling him a rich golden boy is gonna change that
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@echo_grayson
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2 years
y'all will call anyone the main dancer but the main dancer and then wonder why his fans get on your ass the way they do
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@echo_grayson
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7 months
that fandom has always been racist to thai people but always wanna brag about their fave's thai fanbase because they think they can use it as a drag against tn
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@echo_grayson
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9 months
Ten deserved all that and more for how much that company fucked over his career and how they treat his unit as an afterthought. He deserves it because he's talented and a hard worker nothing anyone says is changing that.
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@echo_grayson
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8 months
neither of these are uncommon sentiments from them so fuck all y'all
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@echo_grayson
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10 months
Him reassuring his fans doesn't mean that stage design wasn't an accident waiting to happen.
@SBS8news
SBS 뉴스
10 months
"괜찮으니 걱정하지 마세요" NCT 텐, 건강상태에 직접 입열어 #SBS 뉴스
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@echo_grayson
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1 month
A track video and a performance film aren't prereleases since they're not the whole song or available to stream on music sites
@spicyneos
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1 month
didn't ten have a pre release?? taeyong too right??? In his first album??? I remember hearing the songs before the release
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@echo_grayson
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1 year
I think the solution is wshns and velys get together and campaign for him to be removed from the group. That way everyone gets what they want and can leave each other alone.
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@echo_grayson
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10 months
Personally I think nearly a decade of consistent exposure and activities is pretty good promo, better than long hiatus and scattered releases at least. This con doesn't begin to make up for how much they've jerked him around over the course of his career.
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1 month
ten is only famous in thailand? what about your fave who isn't famous anywhere? it's the reason y'all latch on to ten when you hate him so that maybe you can leech some fans off.
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@echo_grayson
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1 year
talking about ten in the youtube comments is disrespectful to the other members. having solo banners for ten at the fanmeet is disrespectful to the other members. soon ten having fans at all will be disrespectful to the other members.
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@echo_grayson
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8 months
Using Ten designing his fancon tickets to prove he's favored when its common knowledge he doesn't get paid and often doesn't get credited for those extra contributions is a joke.
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@echo_grayson
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1 month
the tears it would unleash if he did this again. he should do it again.
@TENsfeed
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“10vely is my baby” he acknowledged us!!!! 🥹🥹🥹 our government name
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1 year
funny how wshns are very quick to defend tn from velys but never from their co fans being shady or racist to him
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@echo_grayson
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3 months
I love how fucking stupid kpop stans are. The person doesn't even stan the one you're trying to discredit. Congrats on the views I guess.
@cherryjinnnn
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the audience beg to differ
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@echo_grayson
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11 months
it's beyond not wanting him to be praised or not wanting him in wyv, they don't want him to have fans at all. to them he doesn't deserve them and he doesn't belong. it's why any praise for him is seen as hate and the implication is just being his fan is sinophobic in itself.
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@echo_grayson
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1 year
in the quotes acting like knee surgery isn't a big deal and like he hasn't talked about how he does still have pain sometimes all over someone wanting them to be more careful
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@echo_grayson
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7 months
'tn gets more than the chinese members' should have never put him in that unit in the first place. all I've heard for years is he should get less because he's not chinese from fans of the unit and fans of other members using the unit against him
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@echo_grayson
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8 months
can't even be bothered to watch a performance video but always ready to complain and brag he's bigger and better than the group. show it then. track vids not even at 1m perf vid not even 100k mv stuck. his stations have done better than that.
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@echo_grayson
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2 years
those men must be boring as hell considering their fans stay focused on him instead
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@echo_grayson
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8 months
that comment section is much more disrespectful to ten than that thumbnail is. whole thing about the other person instead of any praise for him. and its gonna devolve into fights eventually because y'all can't focus and support him more than you hate others.
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4 months
What's even more embarrassing is how much y'all resent a member of the group then try and act like you just want the best for all of them.
@orsettoseulgi
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4 months
why are the comments under any wayv yt video so embarrassing 😭
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@echo_grayson
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7 months
ask your fave why he said he was jealous then. your fandom is entirely too fucking racist to thai people for your rancid asses to be trying to claim the country.
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@echo_grayson
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11 months
"ten's really chinese he was just born in thailand" "why does ten have so many lines he's not even chinese" "* is more thai than ten" "wayv should be chinese only" all things said by group fans. his identity is his, it shouldn't be erased or used to justify excluding him.
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@echo_grayson
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5 months
nct is still the worst thing that ever happened to ten
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@echo_grayson
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8 months
using this as a drag or a gotcha is so funny because 1 finding the best songs is the point and 2 he's covering for the company by even saying that since he was talking in march? that year as if it was coming soon
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@echo_grayson
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1 month
y'all made up a hate train in those wb comments for your man when it was just the normal tn praise that's in every video and got wshns on board with shading tn. he will never be the victim you want him to be because fandom will always defend him even when he isn't attacked.
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@echo_grayson
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11 months
they want to make liking him into something wrong. to be ashamed of or to need disclaimers that you love the group to so it's ok if you like him you're not one of those fans. and it's honestly been going on like this since the group debuted it's just gotten so much worse.
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@echo_grayson
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8 months
but ten doesn't deserve praise because he didn't make the ink and paper and recording equipment himself didn't write lyrics in his own blood.
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@echo_grayson
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1 month
I pray xiaojun fans get a fucking hobby one day instead of being up ten's ass. company got him an mc gig, pays for covers, got him singing gigs, his own birthday party. maybe y'all should actually pay attention to any of that instead of saying they never give him anything.
@jaemeines
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well if they actually gave xiaojun more DESERVING singing opportunities, and when he does he actually gets past the first round of masked singer !
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@echo_grayson
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9 months
wish more velys got that he doesn't seem to really like dance challenges much. he doesn't take them seriously and while I also miss him doing covers I'd rather he dance to things he wants than feel he needs to because others are.
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@echo_grayson
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1 year
the issue isn't him promoting with wayv or promoting wayv, it's that they've blocked or refused jobs for just him for years and only accept group work now because they don't have a choice. maybe people go about expressing that badly but the root of the issue remains the same.
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@echo_grayson
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6 months
@TENTHElST Using a term coined to mock his name by racist antis is weird itself
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@echo_grayson
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7 months
don't really care how it was meant its gonna cause problems to say you're jealous of someone who is only now getting the opportunities they should have had from the start
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@echo_grayson
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2 years
Being honest, the mv has some nice visuals but everything is pretty choppy and the lack of ten dance break/him being blocked so often in the choreo makes me less inclined to watch.
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@echo_grayson
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7 months
I don't know it does bother me to see them claim that man is more famous than Ten in Thailand considering how that fandom treats Ten and Thai people in general as lesser.
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@echo_grayson
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5 months
'ten stans only care when it's ty' no we're tired of the freaks who have been telling him to go back to his own country whenever he breathes in korea using him for their stupid ass fight with someone else
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@echo_grayson
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1 year
just want him out of those groups. tired of him constantly having to deal with racist stans from all corners of this fucking cesspool.
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@echo_grayson
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8 months
The same people who have been attacking tn for over a year, wishing harm or death on him, calling him slurs are mad at tenoutfit posting an emoji. Exact same people with threats to him up right now are mad.
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@echo_grayson
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20 days
if 'you can defend tn without downgrading wyv' how come y'all can't ever defend wyv without downgrading tn? whole fandom shading him over nothing multiple times, questioning his character, not even blinking when someone says the group should be ch only.
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@echo_grayson
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2 months
@qianteez you are very new because other members solo stans hate on ten all the time over lines and even over people praising him
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@echo_grayson
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2 months
Me. I didn't. Posting this trying to get Ten jumped because you're mad he has a solo and your fave doesn't.
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@echo_grayson
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1 month
funny thing is they have. even on his solo mv.
@dri_dae
cridak
1 month
@NCTsmtown #TEN 's solo stans, have some DECENCY and not INVADE a post related to another artist!!!! Make your own post and demand SM and whoever you want, whatever you want! Would you like WayZenNies to invade posts about TEN's album and ask @SMTOWNGLOBAL to give a solo album to #XIAOJUN ?
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@echo_grayson
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3 months
you forgetting ten is Thai? you forgetting he gets attacked and told to leave specifically because of that?
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@echo_grayson
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2 years
don't think group fans have caught on to how he tones down to keep things as harmonious as he can
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@echo_grayson
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8 months
Instead of getting mad over a playlist and potentially starting fights over what is likely a misunderstanding people could try actually streaming Ten's videos that he worked so hard on and you all forgot existed.
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2 months
you were the one talking about it's impossible for weishennies to be racist to tn because they're al foreigners. why wouldn't a ten account block you?
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1 month
racist and transphobic but everyone will give them cover and say it's just the fans they have an issue with
@teniecat
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racist weishennies
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2 years
it's exhausting being outraged on someone else's behalf, all these men need to start getting mad for themselves. don't renew because leaving can't be worse than staying at this point.
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@echo_grayson
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1 month
and what are the other members going to teach their stans that they talk to and interact with all the time? are they ever going to tell them to stop calling ten slurs? to stop saying that since he's Thai he doesn't belong in the group and he isn't good enough to be there?
@IvanaTaopa
alwayswithwayv&shinee
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@frankuncean I think Ten can help his stans and teach them to be better people. How come they're called lovelys if they say bad things to the person who Ten really cares for.
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@echo_grayson
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9 months
Maybe if the company didn't treat them like a money laundering scheme instead of a group and didn't make it obvious how much of an afterthought they were they'd be seeing better results.
@purrfecten_
b🐈‍⬛ stay, my water
9 months
idk if its just translation but i felt off watching this coz it seems Ten was just asking if stage would be like love talk (maybe w minimal moves?) given the slow pacing but staff went full on “lecturing mode” telling them they should work harder to give a better performance? 😅
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11 months
used to group fans who biased him would defend him on occasion now they'll join in on the hate just to be one of the good ones. someone got ratioed before for saying he should go back to his country now those posts get likes.
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20 days
In the interest of fairness I think people should have to buy his album to get into the group m&g.
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9 months
y'all would be a million times worse if that company pulled on your fave what they have on him
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7 months
ten got into that comapany on his own talent he doesn't owe anyone a goddamn thing
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1 year
tyongfs and weishennies the exact same breed of loveless freak, see a tweet in thai they don't like and use it as an excuse to attack ten.
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8 months
I wanted to keep focus on ten but this still irks me. Saying he who already lost over 2 years of his career because of injury and the company's apathy for his unit should just step aside and wait for someone else is entitled as fuck.
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5 months
gonna be honest I'm tired of seeing the comparisons from velys because at the end of it all most of y'all are still gonna support that unequal brand system and racist company, you might drop his unit but you love those other dudes too much so you'll be showing up for the rest.
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1 year
this is corny and I'm over the pity party but weishennies mocking it and using it as a copypasta after being fake offended on ten's behalf are actually worse
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2 years
free him from shippers and nctzens
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1 month
One of the actual worst things to come out of wayv is this fucking constant debate and erasure of Ten's identity.
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6 months
Some velys doing a bit too much right now but when those qts were full of people 'jokingly' cursing tn and acting like he committed a crime by moving out with his own pets there was no issue
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@echo_grayson
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7 months
I don't remember seeing a twt ad for the nightwalker mv but since they unpinned it and buried it under other posts six hours after release it's the least they could do
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7 months
Ten sold out seven shows and they're bragging about a fan sign that was open to the public as if it means anything
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1 month
group fans went to his solo show asking about a group cb and tour then got mad at him when he couldn't answer the question
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8 months
its also exhausting and demoralizing and at this point no one is ruining this for us and him but us. it hasn't even been an hour can we just focus on him from now on please?
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8 months
You're making it seem like you're not satisfied with anything he does and are always looking for what someone else has. Ten is more than enough so act like it please.
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@echo_grayson
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9 months
@tensvsion Your support of wayv is you being desperate for a hit tweet so you insert ten into something he had nothing to do with and set him up to another fandom?
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@echo_grayson
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2 years
Don't really care if something's viral or not because that's got no connection to whether the thing is actually good.
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