In the Ottawa Ultimate scene, there is a group called @/OttawaSmash that has circulated an eight hour recording of their staff member @/max_getsum allegedly raping a female player. This has her confirmed, and audible, miscarriage on it. In the recording you can hear her sobbing
about getting it (blood) on the sheets. This man had the recording for months post break up, with no way to know what he was doing with it until she tried to play Ultimate and the recording spread in Ottawa Smashβs staff until finally she found out about it from @/cagt3000
hit a peak with men showing up at the female players house and her entirely dropping from smash, despite having run tournaments and showing remarkable interest in the scene. Following this, she maintained friends with riddles roommate (also a victim of Ottawa smash) @/ssbjunji,
who refused to give her a copy of the recording for weeks despite her begging she wanted to take it to the police. @/bashmo_4 of Ottawa Smash became enraged that he was being connected to this, and began privately messaging TOs he knew to ensure she was banned. He, along with
other staff or Ottawa Smash members like @/killionnn and @/ehwhatyasay , began discussing her on their private and public Ottawa smash discords (again confirmed to exist by Cagt3000), encouraging other members to defame her and leading to gross sexual discussion of her. This
who told her riddles had gone clubbing with Michael (
@riddlesmk
) simply to talk about her and the recording. Here were @/bobombshell βs (the girl on the recording) text to me about it at the time. I obviously donβt have the screenshot she sent me but the pfp belongs to
@RiddlesMK
therapy for the hell Toronto smash put me through was paid for by her. But no- where cagt3000 was put on a pedastel for his one man ban list, she was humiliated for hers. And we lost her. And instead, we have a group that shares rape recordings in her place. I miss my friend.
@RiddlesMK
PILES of food for her smash tournaments. She would get excited and tell me about it. Sheβd cook seperate meals, driving across the city to pick up fresh seafood for players who were on specific diets. She was funding under-privileged players to attend events, often trans women
@RiddlesMK
and still nothing happens. I am sick of the community ignoring this because itβs easier to shun bobomb than it is to acknowledge the SERIOUS problems we have in Ontario smash scenes, like Ottawa and Toronto smash. In Toronto, we even have men with active restraining orders
@RiddlesMK
blight on this community and I donβt want it covered up anymore. I lost the one friend I had in smash that wasnβt a creepy, violent pervert. I only do online now, but I saw @/bobomb_Shell as such a CHANCE for the smash scene. Iβd never met someone so giving. She used to cook
@RiddlesMK
against them for assault WELCOMED into the community by people like @/sweetestkaramel and whatever Luke Farag Nitros @ is now. Iβm posting this because Iβm furious. Iβve suffered Toronto smash for years, and I know people like riddles, Ottawa smash, and the Toronto TO are a
@ax_angelo
@ladyhacksaway
@notacatart
βIβm a nice guy. I believe women deserve to live in fear of men because they wonβt all suck my dick. I would sooner commit femicide than have a daughterβ no ya for sure the meme is correct and you arenβt the problem at all
@RiddlesMK
list to replace what was lost that was actually USEFUL. That wasnβt just cagt3000 with a list, but her and four other women who were held accountable and even had a funds page set up to HELP the victims! She promised to use her own money until people donated and she DID, my
@RiddlesMK
which broke my gay little heart to hear how she was treated and deemed βmanipulativeβ despite STILL paying for these players to attend events even after she cut ties with them due to them helping Ottawa Smash harass her. After cagt exploded the gbd, she tried to help make a ban
@RiddlesMK
@/ssbjunjis real life Facebook page, that I donβt want to link as even though I think sheβs terrible I really donβt want to lead smash men to her either. But anyone who knows her can easily confirm that, and I did screenshot it. Anyways. So this recording goes as far as riddles,
really quick TLDR of what
@cagt3000
has done: when running the GBD he chose to run, threatened to ban a woman who reported a local scene for sexual abuse because her rapist insisted she had an abortion, not a miscarriage. cagt made her send him personal medical documents.
@lNTRUSlVETHOT
@bestsleepygirl
no they totally just wanna be friends heβs just got his dick out the moment heβs walked through the door because well friendship
@Cagt3000
Are you incapable of acknowledging the screenshots where emerae (working alongside you) withholds the recording from bobomb_shell for a month? Can you provide evidence you sent the recording to the detective? Because bobomb has evidence she was the only one to send it.
riddles blocked me and Ottawa smash went on their alts to harass me but liquid hr wanted to investigate it so π«Άπ½ thatβs for all the misgendering, racial slurs and weird pedo-y sexism boys π
@SnowAndSteady
βI, a member of OS, listened to this 8 hour tape of a womanβs miscarriage and her assault! I can confirm OS did not listen to it but I wish they would. She MANIPULATIVELY USED her MISCARRIAGE to SEDUCE him, so there was no assault.β you got me detective! i canβt argue w that!
Haha do you think
@riddlesmk
will answer or pretend he didnβt see and just block me again? Boy is aware I know a loooot about him, more than just this, how much of a creep he is when datingβ¦ his roommate sure can talkβ¦β¦β¦β¦ but ignore this why donβt you?
I am gonna be honest no smash figurehead is going to share that give theyβd have to acknowledge cagt and riddles fucked up and clearly thatβs impossible, so I do deeply appreciate pipsqueak sharing it since heβs the only guy with a big following to help spread awareness in smash
dude who works with cagt and riddles: βI donβt know these people! I have opinions on everything except this!β itβs weird smash has such a bad reputation when the corruption goes this high. Maybe if this was happening to a cis man theyβd give a fuck.
So despite the massive TO silence, whoβs going to be brave enough to publically state they wonβt be working/playing/attending any event alongside anyone complicit in sharing that rape recording from Ottawa smash?
I need you guys to understand that when you message the victim confirming this recording exists and is being circulated, then go βwe arenβt the police, good luckβ you are telling predators that so long as they commit a felony you wonβt ban them from events.
We are smash TOs, not police. After we attempted the mediation between both parties we were informed that things took a legal turn then stepped away because thatβs out of our depth.
If you have any questions weβve released a statement already when the case first appeared.
I wish I could tell you guys what Ottawa smash did to me without them sussing me out. There are so many of us from Ontario either isolated from smash or forced to participate in their bullying, because the scene has become a cult of sexual predators. The shit they used to say
@Emerae_gg
@Gallifreysito
@Technicals_
If youβre going to say receiving a rape recording is not grounds for smash TOs to ban people from a tournament, donβt run a βsafety panelβ. Let everyone know itβs a free for all and bad behaviour wonβt have you removed so long as itβs bad enough to warrant police involvement.
Just a small update, itβs not just staff confirmed to have this recording, it has circulated as far as casual players of OttawaSmash now. An eight hour recording of miscarriage and SA. I canβt imagine how much of a sick pervert Iβd have to be to sit through those eight hours.
You ever wake up and expect to see French smash twitter back up your bestie ? No, but thank god more people not in cagts circle are willing to speak up about this too !!! π«ΆπΎβπ½
@Cagt3000
You are relying on blind support to avoid a slight dent to your reputation at the cost of losing a victim of an egregious, disgusting act happening within βyourβ smash community. The community deserves better than for you to lie and hide at the cost of others when you mess up.
@girardg76
@Technicals_
He did a small piece on cagt regarding this awhile ago but Iβd be definetly interested in a follow up than genuinely follows the entire story as well as cagt
@Bobomb_Shell
Sksksjsjsjsks I KNOW I blocked them I canβt LMAOOOOOOOOOOO most brain dead take Iβve ever seen in my life π« π« π« π« π« π« π« π€₯
player being 100,000% braver than any clout-obsessed smash figurehead that would sooner have a rape recording in their community than a fantastic woman that just wanted to host tournaments and cook the players tacos.
Watching the smash scene cover up and justify their beloved TOs withholding a rape recording and then harassing and defaming the rape victim, all to keep hold of their social standing, is horrifying beyond belief.
@Nintendo
is right to distance itself from you disgusting pigs.
smash community Iβm begging you to put the hating Steve energy into hating the predators in your community energy. imagine how much the scenes reputation would improve if we let less π ists into it instead of isolating victims!
after being forced to apologise to her for this, he then would unban her rapist and refuse to tell her said rapist sent him an eight hour long recording of her miscarriage and the rape. a woman cagt βhiredβ as part of a safety panel told the victim about this after some time
Itβs not a question of why Iβm screaming into the smash void for this story to be heard so TOs stop facilitating the spreading of a rape recording in their community, the question is why I HAVE to scream for anyone with influence in smash to give a fuck that this is happening.
If this had been reversed and a woman was lying as hard as cagt was right now, she would have been hard banned from every known tournament. But cagt is a well liked man, so everyoneβs telling people itβs okay he lied.
@Bobomb_Shell
They keep whining it was out of their pay grade like okay donβt be fucking TOs then. You donβt get all the fun and no responsibility and say βoops Iβm too stupid, what can you do?β when youβre called out for causing harm for abusing your position of trust and power in a scene.
I am going to just cry honestly. How hard is it to communicate with a victim about her own story? How many figureheads are going to decide the βauthoritiesβ of her story are the only people worth speaking to about HER story? Outside of smash this would NEVER fly.
@Technicals_
βHmmm, we confirmed that they had a rape recording floating around. Well, thatβs really scary for us TOs to handle so letβs keep Ottawa smash staff around because we arenβt police and itβs not our duty to have morals or worry about player safetyβ cagt and affiliated TOs.
everyone else is too prideful and reluctant to admit their friends fucked up in ANY way so I doubt anything will come of it (look at the lack of TO acknowledgment or figureheads that USUALLY boost this stuff) but the more people know the better, and thank god for your average
Also, he was not removed, Ottawa smash kept him on until
@Cagt3000
put him on the GBD and they fought hard to take him off, even threatening bobomb on their OttawaSmash podcast account (ledgetraplive). Itβs deleted but she had screens :))).
hey
@TeamLiquid
I had to dig around for some of this (obvs not what she texted me) so is
@riddlesmk
encouraged to participate in the sexual harassment and just plain bullying of other players or? if his roommate is lying then his close relationship w Ottawa smash is still weird
@SirDank_
I would say βexposeβ and then CUT CONTACT with the misogynists honestly. The reason men do this so frequently is the community at large ignores it at BEST so they feel this behaviour is safe, encouraging more of the behaviour and scaring off anyone who is victim to the
@Emerae_gg
If you had truly messed up, youβd be apologetic, instead of acting like itβs her fault you took on the responsibility of running a safety panel. But you didnβt mess up, you walked away to save your social standing after endless lies. You owe a lot of people an apology.
Please read, itβs long. The response of SMASH figureheads (TOs, creators, sponsors,) to a recording of a womans SA during her miscarriage circulating their community. This originated from
@ottawasmash
, created by a staff member and disgustingly, distributed amongst their staff.
@Emerae_gg
So after you guys confirmed the recording was real, had been circulated, and that she (and several other women) had suffered abuse at the hands of Ottawa smash, you decided their victim needed to come to a compromise or you were wiping your hands of it and destroying the gbd?
This is Ottawa smash TO Sayarr in my mentions, they genuinely think sliding around that recording is a fucking meme. In my years in the smash scene I have never met such truly disgusting rotten people inside and out.
but neither her nor cagt would give her the recording. it took her weeks of begging to receive this recording. they would not further help her in obtaining justice, despite how valuable the defamation her rapist committed against her would be in court (the abortion statements,
When abusers abuse their victims, and are caught lying about it, you donβt have to entertain every excuse and lie they come up with to justify fucking lying. You can just stop listening to them! It works really well and is very healing in fact to simply not entertain freaks.
like hope it goes well itβs still esports hr but it means riddles canβt get away with too many more massive fuck ups. there was the n word thing , the manipulative public meltdown that girl wouldnt date him, now the SA recording with Ottawa smashβ¦β¦. ππππ
The problem with smashers and TOs like
@cagt3000
silencing victims is when they do that they are saying βitβs unfair to expect me to isolate predators from the smash community for causing harm, but I am fine with their victims being isolated from smash because of that harmβ.
Itβs so insidious to say TOs arenβt βpaid enoughβ to not let predators in their scene. It really proves why smash has and deserves a disgusting reputation that theyβre all just a bunch of sexual predators and their enablers, every time something happens itβs βtell someone elseβ.
@Ikalamar_
@Fan2Fromage
Ya itβs the same document linked! But thanks for adding in the extra portion of cagt doubling down on lying. So cowardly of him to say βI walked away from the mess I created what else can you expectβ, yuck.
Soβ¦ cagt can air this out on social media and LIE, but the woman he tormented for a year, defamed, & obstructed her path to justice is ONLY allowed to βtell the copsβ whatβs going on and is being defamed by North American smash figureheads for showing hard evidence cagts a POS?
Straight up just reporting the streamer @/supergirlkels for her involvement in a community where they share an eight hour SA recording of her during her miscarriage that sheβs fine with, and invite you all to do the same. Next up: Ottawa and Toronto smash for some beautiful C&Ds
I think the most disgusting thing about smash ultimate is it we truly managed to kick every rapist/enablers out of the βsceneβ, weβd have to rebuild the scene with barely 1/3rd of their player base. But why do we want a scene so dependant on being complacent with sexual abuse?
Itβs still disturbing that cagt will bald face lie about what he did with the screenshots RIGHT THERE even if the woman he tormented doesnβt want to fucking call the cops and tell them some deadbeat smash TO that enables rapists is lying about her. You guys are fucking delusional
now this victim of something so awful is shunned out of the smash scene, but the recording isnβt, and cagt is being told by the scene at large that it is okay to lie and further victimize anyone he likes because βbeing a TO is hardβ. Shouldnβt be a TO then. Good men donβt lie.
Sorry I needed a few days cause the absolute shit the community βleadersβ actually care about is such fucking nonsense it boils my blood. Rape recording? No big deal.
They wonβt answer this because theyβd have to admit they lied and theyοΏ½οΏ½d rather defame her and make her out to be the problem, and ruin her life over a rape recording they wouldnβt give her. They are truly evil people and I hope they get what they deserve in life.
I wake up and itβs to people listening :). No figureheads yet (typical) but eyes are on it! What happened to her was disgusting and shouldnβt be silenced. Justice for bobomb_shell ππ«Άπ½
about teenage girls was horrific, let alone how weβve seen them talk about grown women. They sexualize every woman and child in their scene, and you either agree with them or face their harassment, stalking, and for a lot of us, physical/sexual violence.
@Peu2vertu
@ZombaSalvatore
No heβs likely close to cagt, my guess is cagt is going to try and bring in North American players since the French donβt think him lying and enabling the sharing of a rape recording in his communities is cool. (which thanks by the way! amazing to see smashers with real morals)
etc). DURING this cagt was emailing anyone notable in smash NOT TO TALK TO THIS WOMAN. he wanted what happened covered up despite that Ottawa smash was still circulating this recording and cagt knew about it, because cagt did not want to have to apologise. Instead,
and banning the woman, that victim of that recording, from all events and not helping keep Ottawa smash (and consequently the recording) out of any other smash events. when βcalled out for thisβ, cagt told people he spoke to the detective βright awayβ. There wasnβt even a
I wasnβt sure at first but honestly the more this is hidden the more I firmly belief riddles did not go to βtalkβ about a recording but only said that because he knows βlistened to itβ wasnβt gonna go over well with his female roommate, as gross as she is,
detective at the time! So, evidence surfaced he never spoke to the detective. he continues to defame this victim and claim he βwalked awayβ and that should be enough, but IMO it is deplorable to cause that much harm and walk away insisting it was just too hard to fix.
Cool, show the proof of this, as weβve seen bobombs proof that she was the only one to pass on the recording.
You say sheβs a victim then βI wonβt work with her or OSβ, as though she is equally as at fault for being raped as they were for doing it/sharing a recording of it.
I wish I had pushed more and more for people to go to the police, and Val did go. The police have the recording, they had everything because I forwarded it at their request when I spoke to the detective.
I did my part, I can't force other TOs to follow suit.
@Cagt3000
>TOs when they have to acknowledge serious harm happening in their community but they donβt want to because theyβd have acknowledge they fucked up handling it and theyβd rather keep a rape recording in their community than make it right :)
In the Ottawa Ultimate scene, there is a group called @/OttawaSmash that has circulated an eight hour recording of their staff member @/max_getsum allegedly raping a female player. This has her confirmed, and audible, miscarriage on it. In the recording you can hear her sobbing
wonderful news, you can actually ask Nintendo customer service if they can forward information about an employee acting against nintendos values. I really advise letting them know @/supergirlkels has helped dismissed/mock a rape victim and collaborates with rapists. π§΅
shocking to me how technicals was all gung-ho about cagt being a loser, up until it meant he had to truly side with a random over a bunch of greasy gamer dudes. Then it became less about the truth and more about supporting cagt lying so he can still appeal to his demographic.
I think it would actually kill these people to hold anyone besides a rape victim accountable for their behavior βuhhh she should have gone to the police even when emerae wouldnβt give her the recording she needed to do that uhhh getting raped is equally bad as rapingβ idiots
he silenced this issue (going so far as to email technic/al despite how morally superior he pretended to be when the victim talked to techn/icals as well) and burned this womanβs reputation to the ground, ensuring the recording stayed accessible in the smash community
Hey Iβve gotten several DMs about this and 1) NO, bobomb has not said anyone can speak on her behalf so please ignore people lying that she wants this ignored and 2) if that same group claims sheβs lying, ask them why they canβt talk to her about it? Why is everything so secret?
@Cagt3000
being a loser isnβt exactly against the law? Kinda shows heβs a shit fuck awful TO but these people acting so arrogant about calling the police know itβs because they wonβt exactly give a fuck chat is a lying asshole. WE should care if our leaders have morals though!
@Bobomb_Shell
ur too nice i donβt think he should be a TO again if heβs comfortable banning people who slight him but him PERSONALLY being sent a RECORDING OF RAPE is βtoooo complicated and actually lets ban the victim instead!!!β