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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
8 months
Fight starts, sukuna makes his intentions of targeting gojo’s moveset rather than outright killing him clear. Gojo basically tells the reader to stop using megumi to cope about his inevitable L. Some punches thrown then Gojo+
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‘None of it would get past infinity’ A🧵explaining every instance of Sukuna being stated or implied to be holding back against Gojo.
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8 months
Part 2 of this thread.
@WrecklessKurs
KURS
8 months
Fight starts, sukuna makes his intentions of targeting gojo’s moveset rather than outright killing him clear. Gojo basically tells the reader to stop using megumi to cope about his inevitable L. Some punches thrown then Gojo+
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Long thread🧵 on #jjk252 /jjk236. How did Sukuna hit Gojo with a world cutting slash? #jjk253 (🤫)
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Uses blue instantly making this not h2h. For the sake of the overall fight though, i’ll count it since unlike sukuna who can’t pierce limitless without da (which can’t be used in conjuction with a ct) gojo has no reason to not use his ct. Sukuna is not moved and easily dodges+
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8 months
@brndxix Her and AB going cte for cte
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8 months
They showcase more relativity which panda notes. This first ‘h2h’ part of the fight lasts from 224 to the opening of their domains. Which means for almost 2 chapters, sukuna (2 arms) held his own against gojo. Neither went all out during this point of the fight though.
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8 months
Fires a dismantle at the building behind gojo which is halted by limitless (sfx mid right of 3rd image). Sukuna then uses da to cancel out infinity and the building makes contact (kraaak sfx). It could also be that gojo turned off infinity but sukuna would just use cleave atp+
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8 months
Sukuna atp doesn’t know gojo can recover his burnt out ct and is caught offguard by blue, which leads to him getting hit directly with a pointblank red. Offguard cuz he thought gojo couldn’t use his ct and would prioritize running out of range. 0 upscale or downscale.
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8 months
Yes its a gojo feat cuz he created the offguard situation by being ingenious enough to learn ct restoration on the fly. But it doesn’t remotely mean “gojo walked sukuna in his domain” or the other rancid interpretations of this scene.
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@LiberatorLuffy @jetsetmamadi @OP_SPOILERS2023 And luffy couldn’t react in his supposed fastest form 😂😂😂😂
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8 months
Gojo’s domain is obliterated and he is without a ct. however, sukuna prioritizes keeping him in range and goes in for a fistfight (note he doesn’t increase his domains range). He compliments gojo but neither really do anything to each other. Nothing to upscale or downscale h2h.
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KURS
8 months
End of thread. Every clear h2h advantage gojo had is a result of his ct+skill+sukuna not using da. Gojo is also amped for the entire 1v3. Y’all gotta stop being disingenuous when reading this fight, its actually abhorrent. Gojo>sukuna without domains Sukuna>gojo with domains
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KURS
5 months
@ShamanUnh0ly Not really. He only changed his specifications because he stubbornly wanted to break the barrier from the outside. Had he done the less riskier option by breaking the domain from within, furnace would be free to use.
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KURS
8 months
The defensive game plan backfired and got him caught in uv. We then get an explanation as to why he fought so passively. He prioritized adaptation over using DA to fight back. Thus he started getting his ass beat. It wasn’t just a result gojo ramping up. Note: 2 armed sukuna
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8 months
Round 2. They fight h2h some more with both of them landing hits. Sukuna outspeeds gojo for a brief moment taking advantage of gojo’s shock at him turning off his sure hit. No downscale or upscale. Note: Shrine was never broken. Only gojo reopened his domain in r2.
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8 months
More panels of sukuna getting walked 😭😭 (my king has a plan trust). But do note how despite recovering his ct and thus his domain, he’s still only playing defense. Stark contrast to how he opened the fight or the 2nd domain clash. Can’t lie, gojo took full advantage of it 😮‍💨
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8 months
When the wheel blackens (DA), he competes much better. Akin to 224,225 and 227. His reaction speed is relative to gojo’s, he may have better physical strength, without blue their speed is relative and their martial arts are similar. Note: 2 armed sukuna To be continued…
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8 months
R3. Gojo opens uv for a 3rd time and finally gets the advantage. Beating up sukuna enough to force his domain to collapse. Atp you’d think “well thread ended, gojo ramped up and sukuna couldn’t keep up”. Keep reading 🤫🤫
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KURS
8 months
In the first 2 panels, sukuna is restoring his ct and plays defensive. You can actually see when he gets it back (the rubble in front of him gets cut to pieces). Gojo notes that during the 3rd clash, sukuna avoided using other cts. Nerfing himself for some odd reason.
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8 months
Post domain. Sukuna gets dragged around while the wheel is white (no DA), sukuna can’t do anything against gojo. He evades here and there and puts up a guard, but if he gets too close without DA, limitless halts him and he just gets cooked.
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8 months
Mahoraga reaches the 2nd adaptation, securing sukuna’s victory and sukuna attacks gojo for the 3rd and final time. Using the argument of “goio went against 6 hands and won” to downplay a 4 armed sukuna is dumb and extremely disingenuous to how the fight actually played out.
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7 months
@RestlessGamblrr The guy who tanked malevolent shrine got oneshot by the world cutting slash. This is a no brainer.
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5 months
@ShamanUnh0ly Gojo switched the conditions of his domain. To match that and stay within the domain as long as possible for Mahoraga to adapt, Sukuna started changing the specifications of his domain.
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KURS
8 months
Unfortunately for sukuna after losing his domain, his best wincon was Mahoraga. As a result, turning off DA was necessary. This leads to black flash. Note: 2 armed sukuna Note: gojo is at 120% from here on
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8 months
2 more black flashes, this is gojo at the peak of his peak. He outpaces mahoraga (the one required to touch gojo before sukuna can) and sukuna who has mahoraga summoned can’t even use da to fight back. They both get walked by gojo. Note: 2 arms sukuna
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KURS
8 months
The jumping begins. Mahoraga is the only one that can touch gojo, until he does so, sukuna and agito cannot touch gojo. So this is easier than a typical 1v3. Also, sukuna only attacks gojo twice during the 1v3. 3rd image and after mahoraga slices gojo’s arm off. 2nd panel is 1v2.
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KURS
8 months
Entirely 1v2, with no sukuna. Gojo is beating up on a chump (agito) and mahoraga who we already he can easily outspeed. This is also where he lands his 2nd black flash because those black effects aren’t usually present on agito’s body.
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@ShamanUnh0ly Okay long ass reply incoming. Changing the specification of his domain once does not stop him from using Fuga. He reduced his de range against Mahoraga and was still able to use Fuga. The key word is *repeatedly* doing it. The first clash uv broke instantly so that’s+
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7 months
@voidfullpaper @Shelovesedated @RestlessGamblrr No barrier or rct is stopping the wcs from cutting clean. The only thing that would stop it would be Mahoraga adapting (he wouldn’t get time to he’d get instantly oneshot).
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KURS
7 months
The narrative doesn’t even put Gojo and Sukuna on the same level. Forget the powerscaling aspect. Strongest in history holds more weight than strongest of today Sukuna was the strongest in the golden age of jujutsu Sukuna doesn’t regard Gojo on his level when talking to jogo
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KURS
7 months
Gojo wonders why Sukuna endured 3 minutes of their DE clash without using Mahoraga. He’s then relieved because it turns out Sukuna was using Mahoraga, just not the way Gojo thought he would. Sukuna then tells him quite frankly, that he is not trying as hard as Gojo.
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5 months
@ShamanUnh0ly Ur case is that he couldn’t use it in the first de clash. The reason he couldn’t use it against Gojo doesn’t apply to the first clash.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
2 years
@Soul_StormOP This poster better
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
8 months
Shoulda worded it different but im talking about meguna vs gojo in h2h without the wincon of his domain and his wincon with mahoraga. The whole thread is focused on h2h but i tweeted that separately. Meguna already beat gojo after losing his domain and heian would win with his.
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@zacswrld @LiberatorLuffy @jetsetmamadi @OP_SPOILERS2023 Im tired of y’all scaling off of red. That shit is not canon, only uta’s existence.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
5 months
@ShamanUnh0ly Not really a defense for ur case. Sukuna could’ve used fuga there just like he did against Mahoraga. The second clash has nothing to do with the convo. Thats where he started doing all sorts of shit to his de that and sealed fuga.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
5 months
Without hindsight, I can say for a fact i was not shocked at Sukuna winning in 236. From the moment the narrator had to foreshadow purple leaving a mark on shinjuku, Gojo had already died to me. The triumphant 235 was the most obvious red herring in the history of red herrings.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
Somebody pls put a stop to Myamura I will PAY YOU! I’ll give you my first Newborn 🙏🙏🙏 anything just end his account, if possible remove his internet too… This idiot had people thinking Kusakabe reacted to the slash like Maki whole time Sukuna told him what he was finna do
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7 months
The gang discuss Sukuna and Gojo’s wincons and approximately 0 times is Infinity cited as the reason Sukuna isn’t going all out. Again they are aware of how Infinity limits Sukuna, yet they do not bring it up as a reason for Sukuna holding back.
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KURS
7 months
Gojo doubles down. Sukuna not being able to give it his all solely because of Infinity wouldn’t be framed as him ‘not going all out’ because his ‘all’ would apparently not change the fight since ‘none of it would get past infinity’
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
4 months
Rank these guys. Bonus question: Y’all think Sukuna could beat all of them at the same time?
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KURS
7 months
Some extra thoughts: First panel isn’t referring to Heinkuna. Just the Sukuna that Gojo fought minus 10 shadows. Drop that ‘needed’ rhetoric. Both tcb and viz never use that word. That dumbass ‘bled for fun’/‘ko’d for fun’ meme is exactly that. DUMB+
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
2 years
Before this r word tweet blows up.
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@zoromosthated
ZOROMARU🇲🇽
2 years
People ask why sanji has been disliked since the beginning this is your answer 🤷🏻‍♂️
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
I was gonna debunk the thread but he doesn’t even post any panels to support his claims. Just generalizations that boil down to him not enjoying it. A complete waste of my time 😒
@Konfal05
Konfal👁️‍🗨️
7 months
Sukuna is a pretty lame villain ( A thread )
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@HeianYuji Thats literally what it is… Why were they expecting something raw when he dies in the final chapter of the volume 🫤
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KURS
8 months
@MBrownstone20 Sukuna wins relatively easily regardless of mahoraga
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
The depth in question
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@RaxRazing
Rax
7 months
So instead of adding in more character interactions and depth... More fight scenes 😂
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
@RestlessGamblrr World cutting slash? This is a no brainer. There’s only 2 people in the verse who can dodge it.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
They are simply proof of how close to death he was, which does not contradict him holding back. Sukuna was put into those situations because he held back. Especially with the context of the Yuta fight. Sukuna will gladly gamble his life as long as he believes he will win.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
For ‘holding back’ to be relevant enough for Gege to highlight it several times, what is being held back HAS to be effective. Whether it increases his chances of winning by .01% or 100%, there is NO reason to highlight it if it would be irrelevant. Onto the thread>
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
4 months
Welp im too petty to just be a passerby
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@fx_szb
FxSbz
4 months
@gibbs_crishawn @gonisclearlol @SimplyTroy1 Sukuna landed exactly ZERO hits against gojo when they went hand to hand inside the domain lol. ZERO. So stop with the nonsense “gojo was also getting pieced” cuz that’s CAP.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
4 months
Existence erasure leaving debris
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
End of thread 🪡. TLDR: regardless of infinity Sukuna didn’t fight Gojo as hard as he could’ve or as hard as Gojo fought Sukuna. Gonna go over what Sukuna definitely held back in another thread. (Yes what he held back would’ve given him an advantage).
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
First here is what holding back means. Withholding or restricting something or someone. In this case its both. Sukuna is holding *someone* (himself) back by restricting *something* (abilities or methods to make the fight easier for himself).
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
I think Gojo in this moment is the strongest character we’ve actually seen fight.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
First thing to note is that the WCS chants don’t take time at all. If Sukuna was at full hp or at least, hadn’t just ate a purple, then him getting off the chant would be par for the course He can start chanting even while physically doing something like throwing punches/kicks.
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@WrecklessKurs
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Dunno why they think everything Sukuna does is something that should be replicable by Gojo Sukuna is the copier, not vice versa Sukuna also effectively lost nothing due to his physiology. He just needs to chant which he has 2 mouths and aim which he has four arms for He’s him
@BeyonderSmash
The Smash Beyonder! 📚 (Number Three Reactionist!)
7 months
Bro no way
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
8 months
@RileyTheLN shoulda prefaced this thread being a h2h thread before actually starting the thread but regardless you're incorrect.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
2 years
@eric_am9 Why powerscalers talking about writing 😭😭
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
Sukuna would still have gone all out to defeat Gojo because of his own personal limitations (not being able to freely bypass infinity). For Gojo to fight Sukuna he should already expect Sukuna to be limited by infinity. So it makes no sense to start feeling bad about it now.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
We’ve seen Gojo get off chants in even shorter timeframes. Granted this is at 120%, but it would still check out.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
8 months
@the6eyed I was in pain scrolling tiktok brother
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
5 months
They got my goat seeing ghosts 💔💔 his run is coming to an end 🥹🥹
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
8 months
@RileyTheLN Not an opinion, its a fact stated by multiple characters and supported by the fight itself. But yeah i guess have a good day.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
5 months
Sukuna vs Gojo is actually such a bad mismatch 😭😭 I didn’t even take into account the fact that even when he did use amplification, he couldn’t use it properly or else it would cancel out Mhaoraga’s adaptation. Aside from 224-225 Sukuna never once fought h2h properly.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
5 months
Its on you to prove he can see them. Sukuna’s slashes are invisible period. Go find a statement of the six eyes being able to see invisible things then u can ask this dumbass question.
@crazdiamond
king of cursive
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do people unironically think gojo couldn’t see/react to sukuna’s dismantle?
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
2 years
He “endangered” robin mfs when I show them all the times luffy has picked fights without the approval of the crew
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
Gojo cannot do anything shown in the first 2 panels. “Something only I can see…something only that person could see” With regards to sensing Sukuna’s invisible slashes. Maki>Gojo. Confirmed by Sukuna referencing only Mahoraga and Maki in the latest chapter.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
Its even funnier because the implication here is that Sukuna would be able deal with someone greater than Gojo in his nerfed state.
@tableofenoch
Idris
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does uraume think mfs like gojo grow on trees what the fuck
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@WrecklessKurs
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If u can read, this tweet is dumb as shit and only serves to spread further misinformation. Sukuna went from only needing to basically cast his domain to release the world slash to- Needing chants Aiming specifically with his hand Plus the already required handsign It was fair
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
In terms of the efficacy of sorcery, Sukuna is the greatest. The binding vow he made for the wcs to require 1. Chants 2. Aim (with his hand) + the hand-sign, made the technique effectively useless in a 2️⃣ armed body Thus he ‘sacrificed’ it without sacrificing it #himothy
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
Gojo spent the entire fight trying to reach Sukuna who he considered the absolute strongest Sukuna at 15 fingers was already compared to Gojo and was about to fight Gojo at 15 fingers before Kenjaku jumped in Nobody in the story views Gojo=20 finger Sukuna.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
Holy peak 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
Maki has 3 advantages A. previous info on the slash B. Seeing/sensing the slash better than Gojo C. Lower output Sukuna (may or may not affect slash speed) There is no inconsistency in assuming, Gojo was in a situation similar to Maki and simply reacted worse 🤷‍♂️
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
The world slash is just an extended range dismantle. So this hand sign is still generally required. Whenever Sukuna is in frame while using dismantle, we always see this hand sign. Otherwise we cut to the result of the dismantle.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
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@voidfullpaper @Shelovesedated @RestlessGamblrr It wouldn’t because mahoraga didn’t get oneshot by a dismantle or a 0 range dismantle.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
4 months
There is nobody in the verse that beats heiankuna in h2h ce or no ce, ct or no ct.
@SasD2r28
Joker
4 months
Hand to hand with no cursed energy who's taking this. Current Yuji or Heian Era Sukuna
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@WrecklessKurs
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
8 months
Part 2 of this thread.
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@foshigojo @ShadzMangaOnly No he didn’t. He said what he wanted from mahoraga was a means to tear through infinity. He wanted a new technique not a way to beat gojo. That could be achieved in other ways.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
‘Gojo can see cursed energy’ so can every other sorcerer ‘But he can see at an atomic level’ Nope. Limitless jujutsu itself is a manipulation of ce at an atomic level. The six eyes simply aid that.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
Here’s most of what the six eyes can do (excluding the Godly ce efficiency) Nowhere does it state it can see the things Toji and Maki can see. And no, kid Gojo sensing Toji doesn’t mean he has better senses. It just literally means Kid Gojo can sense Toji/Maki.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
The name of the first chapter is Ryomen Sukuna
@WolChan4
Wol Cha
7 months
@loffybunny Hope Gojo will return. He starts the whole story. Let him end the story. PS. I'm not sure if Gege will do this.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
@lightningclare Not to mention, that famous barrage of punches isn’t even canon. Dude’s a beast 🤗
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
Lastly, even with the six eyes, Gojo can be caught offguard. Here he easily evaded a regular swing, but fails to evade a world swing. If he can be caught offguard in the heat of battle he can definitely be caught offguard when he’s high on victory.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
#jjk255spoilers This chapter did everything for me ngl Confirmation that Sukuna can use an impromptu bv to send a motionless/chantless wcs Base physicals matter to sorcerers (more heinkuna gas) And most importantly, Miguel doesn’t have killmonger dreads 🙏
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@WrecklessKurs
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5 months
This shit never happened 😭😭 he beat up agito then self nuked (failed) to take out sukuna/mahoraga.
@JoeMarrow321
The Wolf of Grove Street
5 months
Gojo’s PR is crazy. He wasn’t nearly this cool during his final fight. 😭
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
8 months
Gonna make thread on h2h in sukuna vs gojo. Lotta horrible misinterpretations surrounding their relativity which leads to the ulcers i’ve been forced to engage with when discussing this topic. 4 likes 0 rts and 100 views lets goooo 😤😤
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@PazzIguess He holding onto romance dawn trio bud is lost anyways
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
Lightning just opened my eyes. Idk why I let myself get tricked into thinking Gojo’s dura was above cleave. The alternative being was getting cut completely by cleave and was simply regenerating as soon as it happened. Doesn’t contradict cleaves ability and better rct scaling
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
5 months
@Seijunren @ShamanUnh0ly Assuming thats better than tcb, the size logically only correlates to the fire power of fuga, not if it can be used at all.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
Gege apparently hated him here too, thats why he gave him the best fight intro in the whole series (against the guy he supposedly glazes) 🏃‍♂️💨
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
He definitely has some Idea of dismantle. He gets a panel indicating he can somewhat perceive the slash. Not enough for Sukuna to compare it to Mahoraga but better than anyone not named Maki.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
She cooked 😌
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
Much easier
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
6 months
@the_stle1 @CrimsonInvictus Rather than the physical similarities like doing his hand sign, this is the main reason sukuna won’t forget Gojo. The only person Sukuna battled in this era who lost without regrets, curses or hubris.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
‘Actually you just proved he can evade it’ Nuh uh Sukuna knows dismantle can’t get through. What he does is fire at the building, switch to da to turn off infinity and get the building to hit Gojo.
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@WrecklessKurs
KURS
7 months
Thus we can conclude Sukuna needs 2 things for the slash. The chant and this hand sign. I’ve seen a lot of people consider that maybe he used a binding vow and I’m 50/50, however I think he could’ve just Maki’d Gojo.
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