Making sure I understand this correctly; the US Open champ and the Senior US Open champ both play on the
@livgolf_league
full time, and LIV doesn’t receive world ranking points. And many Twitter folk and American golf fans say this is fine because it’s an “exhibition league”?
It’s wild that
@GolfChannel
calls itself the “golf” channel and has never even shown one LIV highlight. They talk about not having seen these guys play in so long… that’s your fault!
“They knew the deal when they went to LIV that’s why they got the money”
No, they knew the risk. Their old tour wouldn’t even employ them. They’re contractors. They did nothing wrong taking a different contract. They deserve to be ranked, end of story.
Truly incredible that LIV added this feature before the tour that had a 50 year monopoly. Main broadcast on the tv, any group on the laptop. All fans have ever wanted
@flushingitgolf
let's not forget that these guys are contractors who have always played on multiple tours, and that the only thing making LIV "the other side" is the PGT policy of suspending anyone affiliated w LIV
The pga tour is borderline unwatchable after getting used to LIV. They just wasted 2 minutes on Zach Blair missing a 3 footer then making the 3 footer coming back. Who gives a shit?
Hey
@PGATOUR
@PGA
is anyone going to defend Scottie Scheffler in public, who is still being accused of a felony, or are you too cowardly to condemn anything the police do?
If a LIV leaderboard ever looked as red as the John Deere looks with a bunch of no names at the top, people would be bashing the setup as Mickey Mouse golf, just a fact.
I can’t believe this has to be said…
Banning dozens of the best players in the world from a tour and limiting the sizes of the fields on that tour makes winning easier. Not harder.
Scottie is having an amazing season but “datagolf” might wanna go back to data analysis school
It’s hard to phrase this in a way that doesn’t upset people. But the pga tour is literally unwatchable compared to LIV. 4 shots a minute and live coverage of any player on the course on one tour. One shot a minute and live coverage of 5% of the field on the other
This is why
@livgolf_league
is a superior product to the
@PGATOUR
…. Half the field is going to be finished by the time the fans get to see their first shot on TV. On LIV you see every shot
gonna be hilarious if Blandy wins another Senior major and the pga tour has to yet again explain that he doesn't get a champions tour exemption because he plays for big bad LIV
For all of you “none of the top 30 players in the world play LIV” idiots (
@NoLayingUp
):
At the end of 2021
DJ 3, Bryson 5, Louis 10, brooks 16, ancer 17, cam 22, Reed 25, Casey 28, Wolff 30, niemann 31, gooch 32, Phil 33, Leishman 36, Westwood 37
Nothing more obnoxious than the golf blogosphere. Can really tell these guys never played competitive golf. There are 10s of thousands of players who are just barely not good enough to be pros. No one wants to watch you shoot 78 from the blue tees. Jesus Christ
Niemann -6 thru 8... remember that time Michael Kim publicly ridiculed him for saying he deserves to be in the majors.... MK hasn't made a cut since then🤣
NBC golf coverage just spent 5 minutes on Carson Young making a double bogey on 17 around the green. It's not the division in the game driving fans away, it's the shitty product
One of the main things LIV has going for it long term is viewer experience. For 4.5 hrs it’s nonstop golf with very few commercials, and you see the entire days action. If they stick to the F1 style as a revenue model (billboards rather than ads) their product is just better
Aaron oberholser just said he wants to ring Jon rahms neck thru the screen for saying that he’s still a member of the tour and willing to support it once his suspension is revoked. The golf channel is disgusting
PGAT homers love saying TV ratings are evidence that LIV has no fans. We watch on the LIV+ app, which literally has no ads. LIV+ doesn't reflect in Nielson ratings. If u stop mouth breathing for a sec you'll realize that's why the ratings were low and they stopped releasing them
@ThorbjornOleZyn
I mean you can be the “defend LIV” guy all you want but I’ve been watching him for one hole of golf and they didn’t show his approach into the par-5. So very nice try but no.
In 5 years, if nothing changes, every single major will need an asterisk. While i don't agree with what Gooch said about this year's masters, taking the quote narrowly to mean about this year and to be about himself is dishonest and douchey from
@Daniel_Rapaport
Think there are 12 LIV guys in the field at Augusta. Roughly 20% of LIV is in the Masters. So what Talor Gooch really means is there’d be an asterisk on Rory’s win because Talor Gooch isn’t in the field.
The comments are so fucking toxic. Bizarre how those most upset by the disunity in the game of golf are the ones actively perpetuating it. Guys, there’s more golf to watch on TV now, fucking relax.
I would add oosthuizen to the list of LIV guys Augusta should invite. Has produced several great performances in the masters including the memorable albatross
Having Norman in the booth is awesome. Was one of the greatest players of all time, and designed both this course and several others - so knowledgable and fun to listen to
#LIVGolf
Hey PGA Tour homers / LIV haters, it’s totally fine that Tyrell Hatton just shot -11 and we didn’t see any of it as fans, right??
@PGATOUR
@peacock
@NBCSports
Tyrell Hatton shot -11 62 at kapalua and the only clips you can even find today from his round are his bogey on the featured hole (where they made fun of his temperament, how original), and his final putt. Can you really blame him for going somewhere he’s wanted?
#LIVGolf
Hey PGA Tour homers / LIV haters, it’s totally fine that Tyrell Hatton just shot -11 and we didn’t see any of it as fans, right??
@PGATOUR
@peacock
@NBCSports
Seems like all the anti-LIV golf fans who claim LIV sets the courses up easy for low scoring are really quiet today about the scoring on the pga tour. I guess it’s okay when a bunch of no names tear up the Byron Nelson, but a bunch of superstars shooting 65 on LIV is suspect 🤡
This is such a cuck attitude. If you’ve been watching golf religiously on tv for the past 15 years like me, you must be sick of the ads. They aren’t the only way. F1 and soccer feature very few ad breaks, more billboards. The pgat got lazy and forcefed the fans too many ads.
@ThorbjornOleZyn
Commercial free isn’t a realistic long term strategy. Given the purses and salaries LIV will ultimately need even more ads than the PGAT.
wait, didn't these guys say that LIV viewer numbers are bad and that views on the app don't matter? the obsession with viewer numbers is so inane. assess the products for their quality. i prefer commercial free golf with the better players personally
"I went last week to see butch harmon for a golf lesson"
-Rory McIlroy, on Monday's episode of
@icanflypod
podcast
1:03:45 mark.
Dan just trying to make other journalists that have real scoops look bad or what?
@MattVincenziPGA
@UsedGolfFacts
LIV is 5 good players and a bunch of washed up old men and kids who have never been pros before lol therefore it’s easy for those 5 players to continually win.
This shit is unwatchable. I haven’t seen a golf shot in 10 minutes. So many ads, summaries, highlights…. Can we show the highlights tonight and just show the golf now?! wtf
@espn
Bryson has always been likable in his own way. Imagine being a rookie on the pga tour and deciding to invent a new way to putt, only for the usga to ban it 6 months later. Years later his power changed the game forever. He’s always been on the cutting edge,moving the game forward
I don't mind that LIV broadcast updates the score in real time whether theyve shown the shot yet or not. I kinda like it. but, when they show the replay, i think there needs to be a signifier that lets us know that this shot's result is already reflected in the score
#LIVGolf
@OWGRltd
@clutchprotour
y'all are an embarassment to the game of golf. you probably can't name one person on that tour meanwhile there's dozens of hall of famers on LIV. you're a joke
If Rahm goes on to win tomorrow, this up and down he made on the 7th hole in round 1 (to save bogey after driving one OB) will go under the radar as one of the most important moments of his tournament. Absolutely filthy golf shot here.
Niemann hitting it 186mph off the tee is going under the radar right now. That would be
#2
avg on the pga tour last year. Sergio hit it 174 for comparison - that’s above average
City AM, London’s most read financial paper, is reporting Rory McIlroy could be close to joining LIV Golf for $850 million plus an ownership stake in the league. This report comes on the back of strong rumours among media members at the Masters.
More:
We’re due for a bombshell
@livgolf_league
announcement. They have to know how bizarre it is that rahms team isn’t on the website with 10 days left. Whatever they’re working on, they think is worth that negligence. Surratt, Dunlap, Cam Young is my prediction.
@shanebacon
Yea they did. He was in the left rough off the tee, hit 4 iron to 125, then hit a wedge long right to 40 feet. You can be a “hate LIV” guy all you want but you can’t make shit up
@_54Golf
@miketirico
He also called it “unintended consequences”, though, which is just false. Very intentional to ice the LIV guys out of rankings and Olympics and Ryder
@NUCLRGOLF
All the people trying to dunk on this are just moving the goalposts, they called it doomed and it clearly isn’t. I for one will be tuning into the team championship
@RichLernerGC
what about the charges? are we going to have a reckoning with the fact that this is how the police handle innocuous situations or are we just gonna sweep this under the rug? can someone in the media condemn the police?
I’m the first 30 minutes of their podcast this week they 1) claim none of the top 30 players in the world play LIV, 2) admit they haven’t thought about
@joaconiemann
in 2 years without even congratulating him on his win, and 3) go on a vicious anti union tirade. Absolute hacks
@MattVincenziPGA
If you know anything about the USA and about Scottie Scheffler, you’d know these are overwhelmingly likely to be trumped up charges to save face, and that this is a national embarrassment. We need to have a reckoning with how erratic and irrational our police are
LIV's "any shot any time" feature on LIVGolf+ is incredible. can watch the entire round of any group on the course ad-free. setting a new standard for golf coverage
#LIVGolf
#LIVBroadcast
@ProGolfCritic
i would add that the quality of the coverage is horrendous. the cam smith shot on 7 on sunday that they were about to show then cut to scottie walking between tees is a great example - cam hit that shot to 5 feet and we never saw it. the coverage sucks.
"there's always things looking back that you could say you'd do differently" -Monahan, before saying how proud he is of himself and his team
not apologetic at all for destroying Jack and Arnie's tour🤡
Credit:
@JCAGOLFReport
for the video
🚨Uh oh! First members of the golf media to turn on Tiger Woods?!?👀
Did we do it, folks? Titanic reference, clowns running the circus, greed, spite, etc. ALL POINTS WE HAVE BEEN MAKING⛳️
WELL WORTH YOU TIME⬇️🤣✌️
@BobBallPdx
SSG golden parachute is the players pension fund. They’ll raid it and the losers will be the players. Monahan single handedly destroyed jack and arnies tour
@BobBallPdx
the pgat gets away with illegal labor practices behind their cloak of "charity"
calling their talent "contractors" while exerting control over how/where they do their jobs is illegal
if players were employed and unionized the pgat wouldve been insulated from LIV from the start
@frazerrice
@AlanShipnuck
@TheOpen
if OWGR were accurate then world number 773
@TheSergioGarcia
coming in t-12th at the age of 44 wouldve been the story of the week outside of rory vs bryson 🤣.... instead people barely reacted because of course he's a world class player
Is the broadcast just going to ignore Joaco Niemann? most remarkable round of the tournament and they haven't even mentioned it. 6 birdies, a bogey, and an 8 on the postage stamp. crickets.
@nbc
@NBCSports
Good for Niemann, good for The Masters, and good for golf.
He’s a former Latin Am champ (run by Augusta) and the best player from South America. It makes a lot of sense.
(It is quite interesting that none of his LIV Golf accolades are acknowledged in the announcement.)