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Writer who is usually right about things (I called the Iran nuclear deal being approved). Donate, why don't ya?

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They Say They Want a Revolution
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@bopinion Capitalism was always intended to be the redistribution of wealth upward to the elites
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@seaweedanxiety @CPIUSA Anti-imperialism with annexation characteristics!
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Hey, tankies who oppose Tibet because it was a theocracy...why do you like Iran then?
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What were the material conditions that made Stalin impregnate a thirteen year old?
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Communism is trending so this is a reminder that communism isn’t the state owning the means of production
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@bopinion The U.S. has the government it does today because Robert Morris wanted to have a state that could "open up the purses of the people" and use that money to finance corporations
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@AntphroditeStan @LobbyDob Because they think he's going to do the Simpsons meme where he presses a button and resurrects the USSR
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@ImpactBluu @Intensefreshnes A failed gotcha. Societies can easily handle violent offenders without coercive authority
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Reminder: capitalism would be impossible if corporations had to pay for externalities
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@MiddleEastTakes "People naturally love theocracy...so this has to be a CIA op"
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Steamed state capitalism
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"Stop calling us tankies! Just because we supported the USSR ending the Hungarian revolution with tanks doesn't make us tankies! We suppress people who want socialism with other methods than just tanks!"
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Can anyone explain why Dengists and MLs insist on thinking that China is socialist when the CCP doesn't even think so?
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But remember, everyone--it's anarchists who are the sex perverts! LOL!
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'Tankie' was coined by socialists
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Bob Wilson 🇪🇨 My Greater Evil are Anarcho-cops.
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Tankie is a MISO/MEGO term feds came up with it rolls out of the mouth of their Socks. Of course the goal is to divide Communists and Anarchists. Together they could actually create some change. Instead the feds do a good job keeping them occupied fighting. The feds are winning.
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And, traditionalist that he was, shouldn't he have married her?
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"We don't like Iran's government! We just think Iran should have self-determination" But you don't think Tibet deserves self-determination. If Iran deserves it but not Tibet, this must mean you like Iran
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Why do tankies pretend that Assad wasn’t working with the CIA to torture people?
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communist corn ✭☭⌖
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@donnieslime @IRLKrazzett @KevorkAlmassian Baathism is a form of socialism, the socialist Ba’ath party of Syria is Baathist (obviously) Why do you think USA is so set on attacking them? Did we not see libya? Iran? Somalia? When will western self named socialists learn? Why is a socialist on the same side as USA?
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I would only change the last one to USSR shooting the USSR 🤣
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"Under Stalin's regime, workers were denied the right to bargain collectively. They required state permission to move from city to city. Workers who missed one day of work could be dismissed. Being dismissed, they could be evicted from their home"--Red Flag
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@jessicobra TERFs: "Listen up, [anti-trans slur]...my girlfriend left me"
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To all the Leninists dunking on AOC thinking that it might be possible to be a democratic socialist and a capitalist--you all support state capitalism while still claiming to be socialists, so...what's the difference?
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I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of tankies suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced
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Bolsonaro and Xi cheer strong and growing Brazil-China relations
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“Anarchism has produced nothing but platitudes against exploitation. Anarchism is a product of despair. The psychology of the unsettled intellectual or the vagabond and not of the proletarian.”--Lenin Sounds like projection to me
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Just another Jordan Peterson-type massive hypocrite
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How does this justify Stalin making a pact with Hitler?
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@RyleyRadical More like 'Kamala Harris For Prisons For The People'!
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When Stalinists say they aren’t down with Stalin's homophobia and ethnic deportations but he was nevertheless a great man--how is that any different from liberal apologists for their leaders?
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Ain’t it strange that tankies call the Hungarian revolution fascist just because Hungarian workers did not wish to keep being exploited by the USSR?
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The anti-communist origins of the term “tankie” w/ @vijayprashad @The_Red_Nation Podcast
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@hakan_geijer Notice how the autonomous zone is actually claiming autonomy and not rule by another nation state L O L
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@JackieRoving "China is just assimilating the Uyghurs, guys! Their culture is too prone to terrorism!"
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Tankies: "We are the ultimate champions of self-determination! Uncle Sam keep your hands off Iran!" Tankies: "The invasion of Tibet was justified because it was a slaver feudal theocracy!"
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@ALiteralGod2 @patsoc_moments I'm sure it isn't a coincidence that this discourse began only when Starbucks workers started to unionize. Hmmm...patsocs are crypto-Pinkertons confirmed!
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For the zillionth time, self-defense isn't authoritarian
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Shout outs to all the @VaushV #Vaushite fans that fail to ask if THE ANARCHISTS would adapt uhhhh… What are they called again? “AUTHORITARIAN measures?” (Yeah, that’s it.) To defend themselves… Like the #Tankies did… starting in 1917
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Then you've ignored the part where the Bolsheviks had striking workers executed
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I don't understand how "tankies" supposedly hate workers while at the same time, historically, achieved the largest rise in the standard of living of those same workers.
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"How can you possibly think that patsocs like MidwesternMarx are anti-Semitic?!" Answer:
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@bandit_161 Since they like billionaires, I think the next discourse from patsocs will be 'investors are productive actually'
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Mask off. Even Lenin said that bureaucracy was inherently bad--i.e. it's "essence" consisted of being “privileged persons divorced from the masses and superior to the masses”. His descendants don't even bother attacking it and have made their peace with it (as he did)
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State ownership isn’t socialism either
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Tankies say this...and then you ask them if they'd support an ML party taking power in Syria and their response is no they'd rather Assad remained
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Wanting Iranian sovereignty to be respected isn’t equal to uncritical support of their government lmao are you stupid?
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Idealist is thinking that the dictatorship of a minority (vanguard party dictatorship) is the same thing as the 'dictatorship' of a class
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@patsoc_moments “Let me justify my conservatism by claiming the elite created these movements and would’ve had zero support otherwise!”
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Are 'critical support for Turkey as it takes out Rojava' takes from MLs incoming?
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Lenin and the Bolsheviks opposed worker's self-management. It doesn't get any clearer than this:
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@Grinevics @lijukic I have this strange feeling that that official is not tilling the land 🤣
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@juche_couture_ @birthmarxist You could've...you know...just attacked the pedagogy
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@patsoc_moments “Women and sexual minorities would never have been moved to fight for their freedom without billionaire money!” *jerk-off motion*
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Ain't it funny that Leninists accuse us of being "left-wing anti-communists" when they've done the most to prevent communism from coming to fruition by destroying ever attempt by workers to run society through their own federated organizations???
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"No one should dare point out how a state that claims to be socialist is not conducting itself along socialist lines!"
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@BcTomasZelenka @ConspiracyBull1 Because they are freeing mankind from gayness and freedom, bro
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Um....isn't it Leninists who claim that they require the assistance of capitalism to build the productive forces???
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Sera-Jade,𝓟𝓻𝓸𝓾𝓭 𝓤𝓷𝓬𝓲𝓿𝓲𝓵𝓲𝓼𝓮𝓭 𝓞𝓻𝓬
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When 🏴🏴🏴 believe all socialist successes are due to capitalism, you’d think they’d just self-identify as capitalists since they seem to truly believe capitalism is so good and successful. It’s time to quit pretending anti-communism is anything more than pro-capitalism.
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@patsoc_moments Socialism with Andrew Jackson characteristics
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MLs: "Why are the workers calling for self-management! Those scum must want to overthrow socialism!"
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MLs: "Kurds are an imperialist identity invented by the US State Department!" Also MLs: "We can't have any political entity that compromises the imperialist Sykes-Picot borders!!!"
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@ThatNBAnarchist "It wasn't his fault! Capitalism made him horny!" lol
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@musemadd @patsoc_moments Maupin pretty much says this in so many words in his book Satan at the Fountainhead, which blames the 2008 financial crisis on the Israel lobby and not, you know, American capitalists
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An ML rapper? As if Stalin wouldn't have thought that rap was bougie degeneracy
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"The Bolshevik party in 1917 played a leading role in the revolution only insofar as its members violated its own organisational principles (Lenin included). Faced with a real revolution and an influx of more radical new members, the party had to practice anarchist ideas of ...
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@yugopnik "I think he's been brainwashed. He disagrees and accuses me of the same" They are both right
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@GalvanVako @LoudHarveyLefty @patsoc_moments "Bourgeois degeneracy" Like everyone was hetero before capitalism 🤦
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@patsoc_moments “CEOs are workers”
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@JDsBunker A Leninist not giving a worker the full product of their labor? Quelle surprise!
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@hrenee80 Republicans had no issues with selling arms to Iran
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@patsoc_moments It's just like Lenin's death all over again
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Did the CIA make Mao recognize Pinochet's regime?
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@MiddleEastTakes Historically wrong, as usual
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Why discard 'authoritarianism' when Engels thought everything was authoritarian???
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No such thing as a Stalinist. Stalin was a Marxist Leninist. Stalinist is an attempt to equivocate fascism and socialist struggle. Along with terrorism, totalitarian and authoritarian, discard Stalinist as a term.
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"Every act of violence is authoritarian. That would mean anti-authoritarians would have to denounce all violence. Can't be anti-fascist, then” Self-defense (which a rev is) isn’t the imposition of your will on someone but preventing them exercising their malicious will on you
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Looks like someone snuck on the plane that Hinkle and Haz took to Moscow
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@poldiscoursebot Stalin traded with fascists...and also this:
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You safeguard the revolution with bottom-up democracy, not party dictatorship
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2019 is almost over and if you think China will ever become socialist under the CCP, you need help ASAP
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@leninrolls @patsoc_moments Well, that’s the end of the patsocs. They have to be SJWs now or else they don’t support AES
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@patsoc_moments Proto-bourgeois? I thought patsocs thought China was the Asiatic mode of production and hence already socialist! LMAO!
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MLs: "Parenti or Deng? Don't make me choose!"
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MLs: "BDSM is the worst thing ever!" Also MLs: "Stalin can't help what he was attracted to!!!1"
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@FunkyGrapler @patsoc_moments Haz couldn’t handle working at a movie theater lol
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MLs: "A top-down professional army is great!" *Bolivian military coups Evo* "....Still great"
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No, the USSR trading with Nazi Germans is a very obvious historical fact. MLS even defend it on the grounds that it gave the USSR better military tech
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No. The fascists primary objective was to destroy the USSR. This is why we need a better grasp of history and materialism. We get liberals repeating bad fascist propaganda
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LMAO! The USSR censored Marx!
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@no4_22505 @AlexiosMaximov @bandit_161 Do they have to sell their labor for a wage?
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Why all the Leninist hate toward Nietzsche? Do they still think he was a fascist even though all scholarship proves that he was not?
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@patsoc_moments RIP Marx's “the full and free development of every individual forms the ruling principle”
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@ConspiracyBull1 "But Ukraine has ALWAYS been a part of Russia!"
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Beneath the red flags and inspiring songs, society under Stalin became dominated by workplace managers and military commanders, with their needs enforced by police: a mirror of Western capitalism"
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Do Leninists think Ancient Egypt was socialist because the state directed the economy?
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@patsoc_moments "Dugin's worldview is very traditionalist & conservative & non-Marxist...We patsocs are just very traditionalist & conservative. Very, very, very, very different...very, very different"
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Unsurprisingly, the Stalinist regime enforced gross inequality of the kind found in any capitalist society. Senior figures, like army marshals and high government officials, earned 100 times as much as the average worker (according to official Soviet figures)...
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THAT guy tried to join the AXIS!
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Churchill can rot. THIS is ANTIFA
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So Xi has enemies in the CPC because he's cleaning up corruption? Uh, why is there corruption in the vanguard party, which is supposed to be the epitome of socialist values, in the first place?
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@apeirophobic Steamed State Socialism
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It turns out socialism can only be brought about through bureaucracy and not "a society composed of associations of free and equal producers, carrying on the social business on a common and rational plan"
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Industrialize...the entire area of the USSR...without central planning...in spite of having the entire world for an enemy.. No.
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@AlexiosMaximov @bandit_161 "But...uhhhh...the workers can just make coffee themselves!"
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