German Chancellor Otto Von Bismarck utilized Realpolitik (pragmatic compromise focused primarily on practical realities).
The Prophets of God were committed to establishing Godโs Justice without exception or compromise.
Which political strategy are American Christians using?
Governor
@GregAbbott_TX
,
Do you know what you do put up with in Texas?
*Legalized child sacrifice*
You made a promise to a dying young man to abolish abortion in Texas. You failed that young man and you have failed as Godโs avenger of Justice in Texas.
#AbolishAbortion
This alone is reason enough to not vote for Trump.
None of the other issues we care about deeply can be fought for if we do not repent of child sacrifice.
@smashbaals
It is foolish for Christians to vote for pro-baby murder, pro-LGBTQ, pro-paganism candidates.
Sadly, in this election cycle (as with many others), the two major candidates are exactly that.
Neither candidate is worthy of the Christianโs vote.
@Evie_Magazine
The murdered baby seems to be of no concern hereโฆ
Stillbirth of a murdered baby is painful, no doubt. Itโs painful physically, emotionally and ultimately spiritually. This is the case for all sin. Sin is damaging.
The answer to sin is the Gospel. Repent and believe.
Trump has officially come out in favor of gender reassignment surgery for minors.
As long as there is parental consent, itโs cool.
This isnโt what the GOP is meant to stand for.
@JoelWBerry
This entire thread is why the abolition of abortion with equal protection and equal Justice is not just a possible strategy, but the ONLY strategy.
Regulation of murder has led to what you see here.
#AbolishAbortion
#EqualProtection
#EqualJustice
RC Sproul was and is exactly right.
ANY candidate who biffs it on child sacrifice is UNQUALIFIED for civil service and must not receive Christian votes - regardless how bad the alternative is.
Can wicked rulers allied with You, those who frame injustice by statute?
Psalm 94:20
Was R C Sproul wrong for this absolute statement?
Did anyone say he was overstating his case when he said it?
Should he have qualified it with, โunless a time comes when I have no other choice.โ
I am an evangelical voter in Georgia.
This year I will not be voting for any Republican candidate who does not disavow the watering down of the party platform on abortion.
That includes Donald Trump.
I refuse to reward betrayal with my vote.
I am an evangelical voter in Pennsylvania.
This year I will not be voting for any Republican candidate who does not disavow the watering down of the party platform on abortion.
That includes Donald Trump.
I refuse to reward betrayal with my vote.
Pontus Pilate issued an accompanying signing statement.
Isaiah 10:1-2
โWoe to those who decree iniquitous decrees, and the writers who keep writing oppressionโฆ that they may make the fatherless their prey.โ
Ray Ortlund *LITERALLY* took the words right out of the Trump Apologists mouths.
Not a single Trump Apologist can deny that the ideology Ray is using, is the same ideology they use to justify their compromise.
I was a Pro-Lifer who was told (by my wife) about the evils of IVF. In my IVF research, I found
@AbolitionRising
on YouTube. Several videos in, I was convinced and discovered the Liberator Podcasts which I binged for 4 months.
Abolition is the reason I returned to social media.
What does it profit a man to get welcomed into the Trump Republican Pro-Baby Murder Party and get the approval of Daddy Trump but lose his soul?
Is that how this works?
If you truly want to understand the Abolitionist Movementโs political philosophy, strategy, and prophetic approach, I recorded this video just for you.
If you donโt actually care to understand our position, but want only to disdain us as misguided pietists or purity spiralers,
โ[Abortion] is not a political issue. This is a politicized issue. This is a moral issue. This is the number one moral atrocity of our day. It makes Hitler blush. It makes Mao jealous.โ
- Clay Hall
@AbolitionistFAA
I reject this morally compromised political babble from Jeremy Boreing - the โChristianโ โconservativeโ who relies on beewbs and profanity to sell razors and who attacked
@BenZeisloft
for being Biblical.
Ultimately, I reject Jeremyโs opinion because it contradicts Scripture.
This is accurate. Trump is deeply and uniquely flawed. Most of his conservative and Christian critics are, to varying degrees, right about him.
What they are often wrong about is the left, the system, and themselves.
They donโt understand the true threat of leftist hegemony,
The Liberator Podcast is a gem that does not receive enough exposure. There is so much encouraging, faithful content on this podcast.
Here is a hard hitting reminder that the Pro-Life Establishment is THE enabler of abortion in the United States and actively opposes efforts to
A vote for Trump/Vance is *at best* a vote for Christless Conservatism
A vote for Harris/Walz is a vote for Christless Liberalism
Donโt vote for that which is Christless. Simple.
Fantastic point.
Thatโs why Iโm voting for him.
Both candidates are a threat to the unborn. But by Godโs grace, Trump is not a threat to 5 year olds. Sadly, Kamala is.
(That was precisely my point a few weeks back when I spoke of the Ordo Amoris. Not born children being
Columbus Day:
An annual reminder to us of what happens to barbaric nations who whore after idols and sacrifice their children to the demons disguised as idols.
God judges nations severely with invading nations (Deuteronomy 28).
Our nation MUST repent for Godโs glory.
Aztec civilization was overthrown because of human sacrifice. American civilization, apart from the grace and mercy of the Triune God, will be overthrown for the exact same reason.
God will not be mocked. We must repent and bow the knee to the Lord Jesus Christ.
โBy voting for an unqualified person, we are usurping authority over our neighbor and imposing upon them wicked rulersโฆGodโs Law gives to us a limiter on the types of men we are authorized to vote for.โ
-
@RealDavidReece
@jonharris1989
Idolizing for certain. Worship, with this kind of reaction everywhere he goes, is a given that some worship him to some degree or another. The difference is razor thin.
I think we would all agree to say the same about Taylor Swiftโs fan base as well.
I am an evangelical voter in Georgia.
I want to vote Trump. But his leftward shift on abortion has forced me to withhold my vote.
I pray that he repents of his support of child sacrifice. But until then, I refuse to reward such evil with my vote.
I am an evangelical voter in Pennsylvania.
I want to vote Trump. But his leftward shift on abortion has forced me to withhold my vote.
I pray that he reverses course. But until then, I refuse to reward betrayal with my vote.
โ Wrong question: Whose policies are BETTER ?
โ Right question: Whose policies are RIGHTEOUS?
Righteousness exalts a nation.
Proverbs 14:34
Can wicked rulers be allied with You, those who frame injustice by statute?
Psalm 94:20
I saw the light when I learned about the destruction of Louisiana HB 813 in 2022 by the Pro-Life establishment and
@SpeakerJohnson
.
It convinced me that the PL movement was never seeking the end of abortion, only its regulation.
What radicalized you?
For me, it was my friend getting fired from the pro-life organization we both worked for because he attended an abolitionist conference in his free time.
We do not merely need the death penalty.
We need public executions.
The punishments for offenses truly meriting the death penalty should strike maximum fear into the hearts of other would-be evildoers.
Kamala laughs at the fact that Jesus is King.
Vance agrees that Jesus is King in word but spurns his Lordship in deed by supporting child sacrifice in the forms of abortion and IVF.
Since conservatives have chosen to forget this, no state has the right to deprive human beings of the right to life.
The 14th amendment explicitly prohibits states from legalizing abortion.
The spamming will continue until ideas improve.
Since conservatives have chosen to forget this, no state has the right to deprive human beings of the right to life.
The 14th amendment explicitly prohibits states from legalizing abortion.
The spamming will continue until ideas improve.
@RealBrysonGray
What exactly do you mean by this?
If you mean faith + works = justification, thatโs heresy.
If you mean that one is แผฮดฮนฮบฮฑฮนฯฮธฮท/vindicated (sometimes translated justified) by their works as a demonstration of their faith, thatโs orthodoxy.
Which do you mean?
Here comes the shift from voting for Trump โwith nose unpluggedโ to voting for Trump because it isnโt really a vote for Trump in 2024, but it is ACKCHYUALLY a vote for Vance in 2028.
Yโall, it never ends. There is NO bridge too far.
@KristanHawkins
commitment to the second victim narrative is bizarre and wicked!
Abortion is murder. It must be illegal for EVERYONE to murder ANYONE. Justice demands it.
She is pro-special murder rights for mothers.
@2Pikey
@AbolitionRising
@EndAllAbortion
Would be happy to work with them as soon as they stop trying to kill our bills that would end all abortion in states, simply because they want jail sentences for mothers.
Biblically informed voting principles are definitionally timeless.
You never have to check the calendar or gauge the winds of political change in order to understand the times.
God cannot be allied or have fellowship with wicked rulers, neither can His people.
@BSand1984
@LizzieMarbach
@charliekirk11
If we continue to put unbiblical ideals about our country before obedience to Christ, our country will continue to compromise spiral into oblivion under the just judgment of God.
@merelyjwright
why does that
@TRussHunter
post AGITATE you so much?
Pointing out the actual moral insanity of govt funded IVF or mandated insurance coverage for IVF seems reasonable.
Making this point is not an endorsement of Harris. Trump is undoubtedly left of Harris on IVF.
Righteousness exalts a nation (Proverbs 14:34), *NOT* being slightly less evil than the other candidate.
No compromise with child sacrifice.
Photo credit
@TRussHunter
and
@AbolitionRising
@plesafortexas
@DavidLowe4Texas
Trusting women to decide whether or not they should murder the children in their womb is a wicked policy position.
The image of God must not be unjustly harmed, regardless of the circumstances by which that child was conceived.
@plesafortexas
repent and believe the Gospel.
I submit to you that this is the crux of the issue at hand.
Take away all the mamby pamby attempts to justify iniquitous decrees as an appeal to the human heart rather than the heart of God and you are left with laws and actions that God definitively despises.
@haymes_joshua
@AbolitionRising
Does God celebrate those laws? That's what it comes down to. And we would both agree that those decrees are iniquitous decrees, that God calls abominations.
Would you agree with me that God doesn't celebrate iniquitous decrees?
Yesterdayโs debate between
@TRussHunter
and
@douglaswils
has caused a lot of good discussion about how to honor God in our approach to child sacrifice.
Iโve seen comments from folks who had their minds changed to become Abolitionists. Praise God for that!
#Abolitionism
@Liz_Wheeler
@rachelburkey3
Hi. Please donโt lecture us about moral duty. You wouldnโt know a Biblical argument for faithfulness in politics if it bit you on the rump.
Not voting for Trump, is not voting for Trump
Not voting for Kamala is not voting for Kamala
We refuse to do evil that good *may* come.
"Come, let us go over to the garrison of these uncircumcised. It may be that the Lord will work for us, for nothing can hinder the Lord from saving by many or by few" (1 Samuel 14:6).
@rightresponsem
@JDVance
Brother, I agree that Vance is an upgrade over Pence, but I would submit that celebrating him in this way is simply wrong. Vance is pivoting leftward on abortion faster than any other Republican vice presidential candidate in recent history. Last night he gave a masterclass in
This is all that is needed to โearn the voteโ of many Evangelicals - Big or Small.
(R) next to the name and slightly to the right of the (D)
Biblical standards must only be suggestions for primary electionsโฆ
@KristanHawkins
Abortion is more accessible and culturally acceptable now than it has ever been before.
And it is largely the fault of the Pro-Life Movement. Regulation of murder is not God honoring. SCOTUS washing their hands like Pilate, is not cause for celebration.
Trusting women to decide whether or not they should murder the children in their womb is a wicked policy position.
The image of God must not be unjustly harmed, regardless of the circumstances by which that child was conceived.
@plesafortexas
repent and believe the Gospel.
@DavidLowe4Texas
David - I told you to stay out of my comments. Unlike you, my district respects and trusts women to make healthcare decisions for themselves.
We already know you donโt care about the life of the mother and if victims of rape and incest have to carry forced births.
Trump:
โChristians, get out and vote. Just this time. You wonโt have to do it anymore. For more years, you know what? Itโll be fixed, itโll be fine. You wonโt have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you Christians.โ
Just a little compromise
Can we expect the blessing of God with stopping mass immigration into our nation while compromising on child sacrifice?
Absolutely not.
This should be clear if you know the Bible.
Throughout the Scriptures we see national sin leading to national dispossession. That is true
@KristanHawkins
@2Pikey
@AbolitionRising
@EndAllAbortion
Your commitment to the second victim narrative is bizarre and wicked!
Abortion is murder. It must be illegal for EVERYONE to murder ANYONE. Justice demands it.
You are pro-special murder rights.
Is Jon claiming that Vance has the โmoral high groundโ with his own stance?
Nothing about the Trump/Vance abortion policy could be remotely construed as the โmoral high ground.โ
Supporting baby murder *to any degree* is entirely morally reprehensible.
Vance is letting Walz take the moral high ground on abortion. He probably thinks heโs appealing to moderates, and maybe he is, but he can do that while reminding the audience that children in the womb are also getting killed and the reason you donโt know their names is because
@AnnetteGH86
@AbolitionRising
Yes. Romans 13 makes clear that He institutes each one according to His will and providence. He uses men to accomplish these ends.
However, He does not command people to support wicked rulers. He commands the opposite. Justice and only Justice shall we pursue.
Joel Webbon
@rightresponsem
was told by
@TRussHunter
that he is unqualified to speak about abortion abolition and to be quiet about it.
Joel told
@Kdubtru
the same thing about politics and for him to โmake another rap albumโ.
Russ was right btw. A little harsh, but 100% right
This was the final nail in the coffin for Smash-mouth Incrementalism.
Great job by
@TRussHunter
in the debate. Iโve watched nearly every debate heโs been a part of and this was by far his best.
Scripture is abundantly clear about this issue. Time and truth go hand in hand.
This was THE moment of the conversation for me personally and why I cannot get on board with the smashmouth approach.
Question:
โAre we permitted to show partiality for a noble end?โ
Doug: โYes.โ
โโโ
But if you show partiality, you are committing sin, being convicted by the
@jonharris1989
Julia Ward Howe was โanti-slaveryโ not an abolitionist. She denied that black people were equal with whites and made in the image of God. Garrison was extremely critical of her motivations and rhetoric.
In modern terms, she was โpro-lifeโ but not an abolitionist.
Not voting for Trump, is not voting for Trump.
Not voting for Harris, is not voting for Harris.
Voting for a righteous candidate, is voting for a righteous candidate.
Simple
Trump vows to expand legal immigration in second term.
โI have a lot of people that came in and went through 10, 12 years of work, and I think they're being very unfairly treatedโฆ We're gonna have a lot of people come in, but they're gonna come in legally.โ
Follow:
@AFpost
So-called โethical IVFโ is a blatant MYTH.
Put โethical IVFโ in the same category as Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, unicorns and mermaids ๐
It MUST be abolished.
IVF processes under which only one preborn baby is conceived at a time are not ethical.
Proponents of this method note the high rate of conceived preborn babies, even in normal sexual intercourse between a married man and woman, who die in the earliest stages of pregnancy or who
Trump declares "we don't want transgender operationsโฆ without parental consent."
If a politician cannot stand up to child mutilation, he cannot stand up to anything.
@LilaGraceRose
Now, who exactly is responsible for finding that heartbeat? The ultrasound tech at an abortion clinic?
What about those humans who donโt have a heartbeat yet? I guess they are just fair gameโฆ
This is not cause for celebration.
#AbolishAbortion
#EqualJustice
Trump/Vance 2024 is Diet Obama/Biden 2008
There are for more similarities than differences.
Trump apologists that seethed over Obama, eat your heart out.
Anyone focusing primarily on the negative political ramifications that Melaniaโs recent abortion comments will have on the Trump campaign rather than the blatant wickedness of her position is a big dummy.
โReally? One month from the election?โ
Stop! Call it what it is.
@merelyjwright
@nathanweisser
Still waiting for
@merelyjwright
to refute the claims made about Trumpโs desired policy to make IVF government funded or covered by insuranceโฆ
Ad hom is getting old. You are ignoring the entire premise upon which the argument is made.
Refute it or accept it.
When neither candidate would uphold the sanctity of life for the unborn, I became a Single Issue Voter.
Iโll vote for whoever promises to save our country from a foreign invasion of violent criminals. Simple as.
Please, set aside 45 minutes of your day and watch this video from
@TRussHunter
of
@AbolitionRising
.
Truly know and understand what time it is.
It is time to be prophetic to the glory of God!
#AbolishAbortion
If you truly want to understand the Abolitionist Movementโs political philosophy, strategy, and prophetic approach, I recorded this video just for you.
If you donโt actually care to understand our position, but want only to disdain us as misguided pietists or purity spiralers,
FOX NEWS: What's your reaction to Melania championing abortion rights?
TRUMP: We spoke about it and I said you have to write what you believe. I'm not going to tell you what to do.
I think itโs utterly gross & despicable to see a โChristian leaderโ come out in favor of a pro-abortion candidate. Thereโs no excuse for it.
However, it is worth pointing out that Ray Ortlandโs justification for voting dem is the exact same justification people are giving for
OBJECTION! That is a question for judges and juries to consider. Thatโs is a judicial consideration.
That CANNOT be a legislative consideration. The act, MUST be illegal for everyone without any blanket exceptions for women that automatically acquit the guilty.
@SlowToWrite
Show me a Christian who supports Trump/Vance and I guarantee their justification will include one, if not all, of these:
1. The other side wants to end our way of life
2. Trump has done more for the pro-life cause than any politician
3. Itโs always the lesser of two evils