Seems like there is a run on the banking system going on in Canada. When your govt makes it clear it has no compunctions about freezing your accounts and taking your money, can you possibly make a better case for holding gold, silver, and yes maybe even bitcoin?
That's a breakout. Silver and gold above our levels. Should be a crazy few weeks coming up. The blow-off move will be fast and volatile, best hold on tight.
To those who seem to think that it's effectively impossible for the $ to lose its status as global reserve currency, is there no awareness of world history? The UK lost that status after bankrupting itself fighting WWII. The Anglo-Dutch wars effectively ended it for the Dutch.
If there was still any doubt, there should be none anymore. Silver teased our weekly closing level last week, blasted through it this week. We already considered it a breakout based on the intra-week high anyway but now there is no possible confusion.
Eerily similar action. Stocks panicked for a few weeks in July and August 2007. Bernanke was spooked so he cut at the Sept FOMC (9/17/07). Everything bottomed and rallied together just before the cut. But by October 2007, gold and silver kept going up while stocks began to melt
Pure speculation, but have tweeted this thought process before: the stock market weakness, what's going on in Ukraine...these are excuses for the Fed to NOT raise rates, to maybe even restart QE...gold and silver have been sniffing this out for a while now.
Silver has broken out, gold has broken out, stocks are not going to blow-off (again). They put their foot through a rotten floor-board. Oil has hit our target zone but could spike higher. Nat gas (in the States) continues to elude our target. Maybe we were wrong and it won't...
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Gold and silver have made some constructive moves recently. Silver broke out above the 100-day resistance we outlined this weekend, while gold settled the day above our $1825 number. Just want to see this week close out strong above $1825 now.
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@hypersonic78
for the video
Yes gold signalling a big breakout this week. It's funny because we issued a warning of *potential* near-term correction for the metals a few weeks ago to subscribers (better safe than sorry) and it never materialized. Love the strength here.
Just a little history lesson. In August 2007 silver began a nearly 100% upside rally. The first rate cut came just a few weeks into the rally in Sept 2007, and they continued cutting multiple times. Silver and gold FINALLY joined in with the stock market in 2008 but only AFTER
@WallStreetSilv
Please remove my interviews from the WSS Youtube Channel.
Additionally, I will no longer be doing any interviews with Wall Street Silver.
Everything is oversold: bonds, stocks, PMs. You can get MORE oversold, but there is going to be a hell of a rip to the upside within the next few days to weeks. Leaning toward more "normal" behavior, but open to idea of a crash.
Half joking/half serious, could r/wallstreetbets be the way we spark the next rally in silver? They're already targeting $AG which has frankly been overdue for a rally anyway.
Here's a neat little pattern silver likes to repeat. Maybe it's Comex manipulation, I don't know, but anytime you can connect your crayon line across a pair of obvious price lows, maybe they even line up with some prior pivotal highs, you can usually count on all the stops at
Silver very close to tradeable top. We still think early next week. Can't predict day-to-day but $25 is still our target. For the long-term non-leveraged investors: this is a short-term correction coming after an extreme move. The long-term move has just begun.
I know we all joke about the suspiciously-timed “slams” on gold, but has any one else noticed that they seem to be getting less and less effective? The “slam” today was $10, not $50, not $100. Just an observation.
This is brutal, undeniable, but has our stance on PMs changed? No. Our stance on the Fed's policies? No. Can PMs go lower? Yes, IF gold trades $1709 this month (four trading days left). We are sticking to that. We watch momentum, we watch charts, we are not swayed by sentiment.
Sometimes it just takes a bit of patience. Amazing what just a few weeks did to sentiment. Total chaos because of a frankly pretty mild correction in the metals. The next few months will be fun.
Dec 2010 had a freakishly similar dump to what we just saw in silver over the last 3 weeks - just before going on a multi-month rampage
FOMC this week could be the catalyst (pivot) that sends Precious Metals in the stratosphere
Miners seem to agree.
$slv $sil $silver
Suspect we get a rate cut next Wednesday. Just 25bps. Either that or strong language to the effect of "you'll 100% get it in September." Everything will ramp. And no we don't think the stock market is going to crash here. That might come later in the year, but stocks aren't at
To be clear, we always like to wait for confirmation, but barring some ridiculous end-of-week slam, silver will most likely close above our breakout level in which case the whole precious metals complex has signaled a major breakout.
Rate cuts typically come around the top for the stock market, not because rate cuts cause a bear market but because the Fed is reacting to credit stress caused by the prior rate hikes. Powell very clearly wants to cut, so he must see something he doesn't like...
Gonna go out on a limb here and say that this oversold rally in stocks is not the start of some glorious melt up. We just had the melt up since the pandemic low. If we’re wrong we’re wrong, but we see no technical evidence for yet another blow-off.
Yes, JC, I’ve been there ever since Gold futures started trading. Literally on the floor in the 70s. Gold was $35 then, now it’s $2000, so yes it breaks out. I’m sorry it’s slower than stocks sometimes.
Good day for PMs, not just because silver was up but it actually broke out above some daily resistance levels on 50-day, 65-day, 100-day, etc. Our real focus is on its quarterly momentum, though, but this is a good sign.
T-Bonds worst year since the founding of the United States. Stocks worst year since 1970. Crypto utterly wiped out. Gold is down 4% on the year. But apparently us "gold bugs" are stupid and wrong.
$SPX and $NDX bouncing from the levels we thought they would...will be interesting to see how far they can bounce in this bear market rally before rolling over again. Any bets on how far it goes? Sorry to the dip-buyers, there's no melt-up here.
So no "moon shot" yet for gold. It's on the launch pad, and it's had some false starts. Meanwhile the crypto rocket exploded before it could reach the moon, and stocks and bonds are burning up in the atmosphere on re-entry.
Always figured the taper talk was BS. Or maybe they were truly considering it? Either way it looks dead now. And good timing with momentum clearly set for upside on PMs.
The last time the Fed started a rate hike cycle, it marked THE low for gold, the SPX effectively traded nowhere, 2073 to 2191 (+5%), and gold increased from $1050 to $1660 (+58%) (12/16/15 - 3/23/20).
What if: tapering and raising rates is the pin that pops the stock market bubble, pushing capital into precious metals and treasuries? Maybe the best thing for precious metals right now is for the Fed to actually grow some balls...
We've had countless reports lately on the technicals of the bond market, the momentum building for upside, etc. I get that people don't want to "fight the trend," but 10yr rates rising 0.10% every single day is a crash, it is unsustainable, the financial system relies on the
We just issued warning for risk control/profit-taking to all subscribers. Quarterly momentum looks wrong and needs to clean itself out. We suspect a temper tantrum in all markets that could shake out a lot of investors here. No, precious metals long-term bull is not threatened.
Thank you to Simon
@MiningNetwork_
for having me on today to discuss the precious metals and other markets with other notable speakers Luke Gromen, Eric Sprott, Pierre Lasonde, and Ned Naylor-Leyland. It was a pleasure!
Gold loves to end its down cycles with a flush. It's something we should all expect by now, and not fear as it offers the best buying opportunity. Also note that every time it happens the majority of analysts doubt the reversal, "low isn't in yet," etc. In fact, this is true of
Seems everyone thinks gold is going to collapse now, so we are covering this in our weekend report. Honest question, how likely do you think it is that we have yet another synchronized selling event like March 2020 (which we called the "trade of the century" in the months prior)?
This'll be a little long, but follow me on this logic train. I keep reading the argument that you can't have inflation with low money velocity, yet here we are. I think this is a fundamental (and modern) misunderstanding of inflation.
I'm sure many did not believe when MSA was saying that the latest correction in gold should have been viewed as a buying opportunity. And that's understandable. But it looks like it was correct to treat it as such. The calls for sub $1500 gold yet again did not play out.
Since the Fed started talking taper @ June 15 FOMC, gold has lost a "whopping" $50: $1859.5 to $1809.7. Yes, sideways action is bad for **highly leveraged** positions, but we just can't agree with the trolls who cry "gold is dogshit." Get some perspective.
Gold nipped out its Nov low and rallied $30 intra-day, GDX took out its Nov low (but XAU hasn't even approached its lows), while silver got crushed to $26.10 last night and rallied to $27.71 intra-day. The bears had better take charge here or their game is over.
@ScottAdamsSays
Even just passively investing the same money in the S&P500 over the decades would have beat one's social security payouts. The 'forced savings' of Social Security is a forced loss.
No one wants to buy the metals or miners here because they think it might go a little lower, sentiment hasn’t turned, etc. How many examples of panic selling/margin call selling do we need before the lesson is learned?
IF Kamala gets elected, and IF the unrealized capital gains tax happens, do all financial assets go limit up as they are hoarded and never sold again, or do they all crash to zero as it becomes impossible to make economic calculations/run a business? Big ifs, just curious what
Chopping off the name of the poster because I'm not here to bring heat down on other people. Look I get it, there are lots of investors who made their careers off stocks and bonds, paper assets with counterparty risk. There's nothing wrong with that, but this is almost like
MSA subscribers know that we are not in the business of managing your portfolio, telling you which vehicles to use, etc. But the recent...spat between
@KeithMcCullough
and
@WifeyAlpha
made me think, fine, fuck it, here's our personal account performance.
A lot of short-term triggers pulled today. $1709 avoided. Question now is if these short-term positives can morph into something bigger. Obviously will be updating in the weekend report.
Today was HUGE. Bret Oliver predicted a low for GDX between $35.5 and $36.5 in the 10/25 gold report (the low was $36.01). GDX turned and burned and was up 7% today. Can say with high confidence that we've seen the low for this down-wave. Train leaving the station.
Some big differences between now and 2012 gold top.
-Gold/stock ratio favoring gold heavily now, opposite then.
-This is still a relatively young bull vs that market. Maybe 4-5 yrs now vs over a decade then. So we're maybe halfway now?
@RockBtmEntries
@garysavage1
Gold is 12% above its 200dma, silver 21%, NVDA 88%. Gold and silver are not stretched, even by their own metrics. At the Aug 2020 peak silver was 70% above its 200dma and at the Apr 2011 peak it was 83% above it! They just broke out of a 4 year wide consolidation and everyone
What's great about the slam on gold and silver over the past week is that they prematurely blew it before Lord Jerome Powell spoke. With silver severely oversold pre-FOMC (on our indicators at least), there was nowhere to go but back up. Next few weeks should be interesting.
I'm sure everything is fine. We have wall-to-wall Fed presidents speaking every single day, Jay Pow on 60 minutes, more banks collapsing, Yellen says "regulators are on it" LOL. Everything is fine! That's why they're plastering our TVs with their faces 24/7 now.
Yeah we’ve been early/“wrong” on the next upleg in precious metals, but now that it looks like it’s really starting, the sentiment is garbage out there. Sad because many will miss it.
MSA has been bullish precious metals since early 2016 when gold was just approaching $1200. We've made some bold claims recently on its upside potential (8x gains) but they are historically and technically grounded. Could the growing r/wsb movement add fuel to the fire?
Have been saying for some time in interviews that if the stock market comes down enough, you'll start seeing businesses tighten up, freeze hiring, etc. Now it's happening (it's only just started). Fed took away the stock market's drugs, now the "strong economy" is coming apart.
Never thought I'd live to see the day that a self-declared anarcho-capitalist would be elected, to any govt. My Master's Thesis, written in 1972, was a marriage of the concepts of Rothbard and Rand under the name anarcho-capitalism. It's a new world.
I have to take a moment away from markets to post this. It's been a family tradition to watch Die Hard on Christmas (for decades), one of the best action movies ever made. I know he's not dead, but we all know where this leads.
Happy trails, Bruce.
@BradHuston
MSA is bullish here because silver (and gold) are on the verge of a breakout that looks poised to end the consolidation. Just matching the prior momentum high from 2020 would now mean roughly $45 silver and it could happen in a few months post-breakout.
Let's also remember that the Fed is only talking about maybe, possibly, sometime, perhaps tapering. According to stats I keep seeing on here, they didn't do jack shit in December despite claiming they would begin the taper last month. Can someone confirm if that is true?
It bears repeating that gold can take longer than we want to overcome prior pivotal highs. It struggled for 16 months (5/2006 to 8/2007) to overcome the 1979 peak and after breaking out to $1000 it took another 18 months backtesting and basing (3/2008 to 8/2009).
@ThHappyHawaiian
I just don't see what Gary is seeing. When silver finally breaks out above long consolidation periods, it simply goes (and gets more overbought than anyone thought possible in the process), it doesn't backtest in the way he is suggesting. Unless one thinks we are on the verge of
Silver in 2008 and 1977, weekly candles, reconnection with the 200WMA. In 2008 it briefly plunged below it and in 1977 it kissed it after three years of sideways chop (remind you of something?) It marked the end of consolidation, beginning of the final massive bull leg.
It's mind boggling to see people argue over some minuscule decrease in Treasury borrowing as if some barely noticeable zig-zag will have any effect on anything. They're still borrowing more money than anyone's monkey brain can possibly conceive of. It's like saying I re-financed
We’ve all heard how the war is affecting commodity prices, could be the trigger for a serious famine, etc…but how the hell is Europe going to handle the millions of refugees? I sense there will have to be some major money printing to accommodate the massive population increase.
What if it's that simple? FOMC next week. Probably grind out the low / stabilize this week. The averages are all supportive. Another up-wave coming soon.
We issued a gold risk control number today. I think there's a confusion between saying "here's a number we don't want to see" vs "THIS IS 100% GOING TO HAPPEN." We don't have a crystal ball. In this business, you either get criticized for not enough caution or too much caution.
Thank you for the shoutout from
@TheLastDegree
the other day! Yes, we were very vocal about the March low and buying it. We just sent out an update to subscribers re gold that the low has been seen and it's turning up. Breaking through clear structure now.
Everyone who said recession this year has now retracted their statements. "Soft landing" is now the consensus, just like 2007 and 2000. And of course we're on the verge of more inflation, yields higher for longer, more rate hikes. Kashkari telling us cuts are a long way off.
Considering how bearish even the bulls are on gold right now, the most shocking event would be if gold did not sweep its lows ($1673) and instead, the most recent low of $1679 was all you get...a test, and then you go.
And if you bought gold at the turn of the century, it has outperformed the S&P500 (total return index). That's even with four rounds of QE and countless other sources of monopoly money propping up the stock market.
in 2020 i was one of the few Gold investors who caught the Silver move bottom to about 10% below the top.
we are here again.
those opportunities in the juniors come around 1-2 times a decade.
Looks like that *might* have been it for now. Our target of $25 was reached in daylight trading, there have been two lightning-quick sharp corrections already, maybe we get something more sustained, but by year-end we still expect much higher PM prices. Silver $30+, Gold $2600+.
You know how an improperly balanced car + trailer, when perturbed, will oscillate ever more violently until it crashes? That's what it feels like right now. Raising rates even just a little bit off zero led to the largest bond collapse in history. The oscillations are growing.
The thing about commodities is: they're intensely boring until they're not. E.g. copper today, cocoa over the past several months. I know there are some who get it,
@Comm_Invest
That's why we monitor and update them every month.
I saw that Yellen said today that "higher for longer is by no means a given." Someone in her position doesn't get to say whatever the hell she feels like. Anything like that is planned ahead, carefully thought-out and approved. She wouldn't want to step on Jay's toes, after all.
We could see the big annual momentum bases forming on so many commodities years ago. Especially agricultural. It seemed silly to many back then to be predicting a new commodity bull in the near future, and even 70s style stagflation. Yet here we are.
MSA has been predicting since 2016 that we were on the verge on commodity price inflation. Many doubted, many said "no it's deflation," and yes we were early or wrong or whatever you want to call it, but now everyone except Jay Powell can see it...
The pre-requisite for calling it a descending triangle is that the market must already be in a downtrend, which gold is not. Gold is in an uptrend so one should expect things like pennants, rectangles, etc. to be continuation not reversal patterns.
Risk control time. Gold couldn't avoid our risk control number this time. We remain long-term bullish but our subscribers know from our recent report that gold has a chance to exhaust itself on the downside here, similar to March 2020 or October 2008.