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5 years

Never debate to convince an ideologue. Debate to convince more reasonable people listening in on the conversation. Stay calm. Stay reasonable. Stay honest. Be convincing.

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After all: "Female sport exists to celebrate the achievements of extraordinary females, not those of ordinary males." -- Dr. Emma Hilton ( @FondOfBeetles ).

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Since I keep seeing the same arguments being used in the #transathletes discussions, I thought I'd gather my thoughts in this Twitter thread: Over time, we have created separated sports divisions based on measurable physical conditions, such as age, sex, and sometimes weight.

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@DrIbram Please keep digging, Mr. Kendi...

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@rachael_katz @againstgroomers @LeftyLindeey It may come as a shock to you, but most people are able to agree with others on some points while disagreeing on others. People aren't "allies". People sometimes agree, and in this case we all agree that grooming children is unacceptable.

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@xmarylawrence @EdwinDroom @lecanardnoir @TheIronLabia @Lungbarrow1 @InfiNorth @dinahbrand2 @DeetoriaDee @Canadia89144976 @History_2020 @nationalpost @EndosexD @FondOfBeetles Sex is not a social construct. Gender most certainly is, which makes one wonder why it should be given any social significance at all.

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If you think "OK groomer" is inappropriate, please explain to me why you think this is appropriate for 5 year olds...

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@xmarylawrence @EdwinDroom @dinahbrand2 @lecanardnoir @TheIronLabia @Lungbarrow1 @InfiNorth @DeetoriaDee @Canadia89144976 @History_2020 @nationalpost @EndosexD @FondOfBeetles No, sex categories have indeed existed for over a billion years, and were observed and given name by humans. The two reproductive roles in anisogamous species are a consequence of evolution, not of human observation.

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Obviously, lowering the testosterone levels of adult males is likely to negatively impact their performance, but just as that’s no reason to allow them to compete in the youth division, that’s no reason to allow them in the female division. They are neither children nor female.

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@xmarylawrence @EdwinDroom @lecanardnoir @TheIronLabia @Lungbarrow1 @InfiNorth @dinahbrand2 @DeetoriaDee @Canadia89144976 @History_2020 @nationalpost @EndosexD @FondOfBeetles A social construct is something that exists not in objective reality, but as a result of human interaction. You could claim that sex didn't exist if there was no human interaction? That anisogamous species didn't reproduce using a male and a female? Seriously, Mary?

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@davidhattonbook It's one thing to state that you hold different opinions on some topics than the person who made your fame possible; it's quite another to demand that this author should be removed from the production of the movies on the very books she wrote. It's OK to agree to disagree.

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People should not compete in a sports division which base characteristic reason for existing they don’t share, not even after lowering their testosterone levels. Unfortunately, the IOC seems to have forgotten that sports are separated by sex, and not gender identity.

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There is no need for discrimination or exclusion of trans athletes: - Transwomen can compete in the male division, just like all males. - Transmen can compete in the female division, just like all females. - Doping remains illegal in all sports divisions.

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An additional problem is that neither law nor regulations allow for the distinction between transwomen and men pretending to be transwomen. The IOC has created a “legal” way of cheating in 2015, the likes of which we’ve never seen before.

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Girls are missing out on the ability to participate in - and/or win championships, and lose out on sponsors and scholarships. As more elite males come out as transgender, it is likely that the elite female levels will also be impacted in time.

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Just because non-elite adults could be defeated by elite children, and non-elite males could be defeated by elite females, that doesn’t mean we should be looking for ways to allow adults to compete against children or males to compete against females, no matter how they identify.

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@TheMCG @ABDanielleSmith What first attracted you to an ideology that wants to chop off the breasts of children?

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The effects of allowing transwomen to compete in the female sports divisions are slowly becoming visible. Mediocre male athletes are winning female championships in the youth and regional competitions, and some are approaching elite female levels.

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@billybragg Gender identity is not a sports category, Billy. Sports are separated on the basis of age, sex, and sometimes weight, and for very good reasons.

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@ForWomenScot @HotchkissRhona @Channel4News Perhaps they could first make up their mind on whether these are 1. Predatory transwomen we're told do not exist. 2. Predatory men pretending to be transwomen we're told do not exist. ?

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It is high time that sports organizations like the IOC take a look at the USAPL () policy, and realize that sports are separated based on sex, not gender identity, for very good reasons.

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Except when it comes to extreme endurance sports, the male world records are generally 10-40% better than the female world records, depending on the type of physical sport. Even the world records of 16 year old boys are often better than those of adult females.

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@xmarylawrence @Lungbarrow1 @InfiNorth @dinahbrand2 @DeetoriaDee @Canadia89144976 @History_2020 @nationalpost @lecanardnoir @EndosexD @FondOfBeetles Do you not experience sexual attraction until you've been told their gender identity? It's obvious that for most people, sexual attraction is primarily based on someone's sex. This comes with certain expectations of their genitals, and can certainly lead to rejection afterwards.

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There appears to be some confusion with regards to "male advantage" in sports. Male advantage does not mean that all males could beat all or almost all females. Male advantage simply means that both on average and at the elite athletic level, males perform better than females.

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@BrandonMBest @TamsinLisa @stuartf100 @helenstaniland @HenryBluntDD Being a woman has nothing to do with being "hot"; it has to do with being female.

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Since some people get confused after their redefinition of the word woman in the whole discussion on whether transwomen are women or not, I propose we rename the divisions to male sports and female sports, and consider turning all male divisions into open divisions.

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@cyclingweekly @runthinkwrite Yes, it is. Gender identity is not a sports category. Sports are separated on the basis of age, sex, and sometimes weight, and for very good reasons. Male athletes should not be competing in the female sports division, regardless of how they identify or how badly they perform.

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@StopFundingHate If you seriously claim that it's "toxic" to report on the activity and consequences of having male athletes compete in the female sports division, you simply do not understand why sports categories exist.

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These divisions exist due to the performance differences between the elite members of each class, and sometimes due to safety considerations. That doesn't mean that every adult would be able to defeat every child; few adults would have been able to outrun 16 year old Usain Bolt.

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@m1ssberyl @DuncanCantDie @dontlikewasps @Alister_Kael @lascapigliata8 @OniMedicham @ehu2ch123 @HyaenaMom @sajidjavid I ask for a peer reviewed biology paper, and you give me a diagram drawn by a graphic designer who claims that women with CAH are less female than men with De La Chapelle syndrome and men with Klinefelter syndrome are less male than Caster Semenya? Really?!?

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@xmarylawrence @Lungbarrow1 @InfiNorth @dinahbrand2 @DeetoriaDee @Canadia89144976 @History_2020 @nationalpost @lecanardnoir @EndosexD @FondOfBeetles Must be an interesting dilemma trying to determine if a sex scene in a movie turns you on or not as well. If the characters haven't mentioned their gender identity, you have no idea if you're watching gay sex, lesbian sex, or heterosexual sex.

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@KWuu47 @terrycrews Nothing like a bit of victim blaming to show your superiority, right?...

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@xmarylawrence @Lungbarrow1 @InfiNorth @dinahbrand2 @DeetoriaDee @Canadia89144976 @History_2020 @nationalpost @lecanardnoir @EndosexD @FondOfBeetles You mean you didn't enjoy that lesbian love scene in Brokeback Mountain?

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@mikecompetition @jk_rowling They're under investigation now though.

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One woman reported being targeted in an online group. "I was told that homosexuality doesn't exist and I owed it to my trans sisters to unlearn my 'genital confusion' so I can enjoy letting them penetrate me," she wrote.

The lesbians who feel pressured to have sex and relationships with trans women

Some lesbians say they have been called transphobic for not wanting sex and relationships with trans women.

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@DuncanCantDie @dontlikewasps @Alister_Kael @m1ssberyl @lascapigliata8 @OniMedicham @ehu2ch123 @HyaenaMom @sajidjavid Chromosomes do not define sexes. A man with 47, XXY (Klinefelter syndrome) is just as male as a man with 46, XY. There's not a single peer reviewed biology paper that doesn't use gametes to define the male and female sexes.

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@PennyRed @redney71 ... and yet you wonder why an increasing amount of people object to this trans ideology ... You would seriously blame teenage girls for their discomfort in this situation? Why do you think those spaces are separated in 2021?

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Inclusivity and kindness from the most marginalized people in society or the new face of misogyny?

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@micahneilson @helenstaniland @mushycrouton Why do you believe that? You seem to think that women objecting to male genitalia in their communal shower areas and locker rooms is "transphobic". Most people would consider that common sense.

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@FondOfBeetles @VyvEvans @PsychToday Exactly. Woman, to me (and biology) is a sex, not a gender (identity). Gender roles are something to be abolished, not to be elevated as "identities".

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@WomenAreHereNow @sharrond62 The female Olympic champion is a 150 kg woman, yet her record is broken by the male world champion ... in the 67 kg division. The male world champion in the heavyweight division lifts 47% more than she does. That's how big the difference is.

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@Stopphoningme @helenstaniland @danp844 On what grounds do you think people might be able to raise legal proceedings against Helen?

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@rob3hats @FifeRight14 @billybragg @Glinner Ah, yes. The image by a graphics designer that claims women with CAH are less female than men with De La Chapelle syndrome and men with Klinefelter syndrome are less male than Caster Semenya... Seriously? Is that the argument you bring to this discussion?

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@plasticmartyr Seriously?!? You would claim people with Swyer syndrome aren't female? You would claim people with Klinefelter syndrome aren't male? You would claim people with MRKH syndrome aren't female? Why would you make such a ridiculous claim?

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@julietabego @RichardDawkins Turner syndrome: female Klinefelter syndrome: male Jacob's syndrome: male It's really not that difficult.

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@MinnOrchia @coldcoffee23567 @jk_rowling @dmf500 @MikeWhitton @GettingEricD Then you obviously haven't understood what feminism was about. Being a woman is about being female, regardless of your personality or the expression thereof. It's not about being feminine, regardless of your sex. Women are/were suppressed on the basis of their sex through gender.

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@battleforeurope If Israel had wanted to slaughter the people in Gaza, they could have done so within a week. It's taking so long because they've gone above and beyond what any other country would have done to prevent civilian casualties.

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@MinnOrchia @coldcoffee23567 @jk_rowling @dmf500 @MikeWhitton @GettingEricD Not really to be honest. It sounds like a romanticizing of the stereotypical role patterns that feminists have been trying to get rid of for quite some time now. How would you define womanhood exactly?

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@JRmilek @jk_rowling Then do so, in accordance with your sex, or ask for separate rest rooms. Don't insist on intruding where you aren't wanted. Those spaces are separated on the basis of sex for very good reasons.

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@LGBTQPrideUK @helenstaniland It's not about their looks. It's never been about their looks. It's always been about their sex. Which part of single-sex spaces and sports did you not understand?

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@MrAndyNgo Period? Transwomen? I don't think so...

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@JeremyDBoreing I disagree. Regardless of Disney's political position, I don't think any corporation should be given such an exceptional status in legislation to begin with.

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@jvn Well, at least we can agree in part: there is no excuse for threatening violence against other people. Your other claims however are without merit.

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@XekeKOS @BeardoRiseth @tibialine12 @TheMartinezButt @Bde1593207Bde @Chunky_Milk__ @ForeskinFeta @ThePixelRobot @esjesjesj @brachioeuropa @MattWalshBlog @SwipeWright That's an interesting claim, considering his views are shared by world renowned biologists like @RichardDawkins . Can you elaborate on which scientific, medical, and academic communities have discredited them, and where?

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@m1ssberyl @DuncanCantDie @dontlikewasps @Alister_Kael @lascapigliata8 @OniMedicham @ehu2ch123 @HyaenaMom @sajidjavid I'm sure you have some proof of that, right? I'm sure you can provide a peer reviewed biology paper that doesn't use gametes to define the male and/or female sex to back up that claim.

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@TheMCG @ABDanielleSmith Chopping off the healthy breasts of children is not a "right".

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@Iamthisnotthat1 @ident1kitt Exactly! Conservative: A woman should act and dress in a certain way. TRA: Someone who acts and dresses in a certain way is a woman. GC: A woman is an adult member of the female sex of the human species, regardless of how she acts or dresses.

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After all: "Female sport exists to celebrate the achievements of extraordinary females, not those of ordinary males." -- Dr. Emma Hilton ( @FondOfBeetles ).

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@ChampagneRainbo @stormrobinson @AriDrennen The female heavyweight world champion in weight lifting weighs 150 kg. She would be defeated by the male world champion in the 67 kg division... Weight is not a substitute for sex in sports.

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@miyanesoo @DaysGoByGoBy Is it because they think those scars are ugly or because they're angry that we've allowed doctors to do this to children?

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@MAMelby @trixymalixy @helenstaniland No, the one where a registered sex offender (twice for indecent exposure) was hit with 5 additional counts of indecent exposure after "allies" claimed that person had every reason to swing their penis around in the spa area.

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@FondOfBeetles Somehow I detect a small conflict of interest when a transwoman, who never won anything worth speaking of in the men's division, but happens to become a two time women's masters world champion, declares that transwomen have no advantage in women's sports.

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@TheLamb93 @helenstaniland @PaulSimon1971 Simple: I am not transphobic, because I do not have an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to transgender people. I do however reject queer ideology, for obvious reasons. Now you give it a try: "I am not a misogynist, because...".

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@MAMelby @trixymalixy @helenstaniland It's just one of many reasons why those spaces are separated on the basis of sex. Why do you want to throw that all away, and make so many people's lives miserable in the process? You appear unwilling to leave even a shred of safeguarding open to people.

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@redg0d_ Speaking of abusive relationships...

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@ChangeEvergreen If you wish to argue for additional spaces for transgender people, you'll get no argument from me, but males should stay out of female single-sex spaces and sports.

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@KlinefeltersUK @BluePeg62697795 47,XXY females do not have Klinefelter syndrome. Neither have anything to do with gender identity either; Klinefelter syndrome is a male DSD.

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@travisakers People aren't fighting against CRT for talking about history; they're fighting because CRT claims that nothing has changed since then, people are guilty for the sins of others based on skin color, and the best way to analyze complex issues is through a racial lens.

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@MAMelby @trixymalixy @helenstaniland Well, if they stopped waving them in our faces, and stopped ogling the women in those spaces, then perhaps you'd have a point. You're trying to make a mockery out of safeguarding; something women have had to do ever since they were allowed in the public space.

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@Toren_Ylfa @salltweets How do you propose to tell the difference? Most men aren't rapists either, yet we bar all males from female single-sex spaces regardless. Which part of single-sex did you not understand?

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@jmkliegman @AthleteAlly Was that this Megan Rapinoe by chance? Sure, why on Earth would women need single-sex sports?

FC Dallas under-15 boys squad beat the U.S. Women's National Team in a scrimmage - CBSSports.com

The match was in preparation for Thursday's USWNT friendly versus Russia

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@janeclarejones @TinaBhartwas @LGBTLabour If a term is almost exclusively used by the out-group and hardly ever by the in-group, you can safely assume that it's a slur and/or offensive.

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@TheChrisMosier @SaveWomensSport What is your non-circular definition of the word "women" in that claim exactly, Chris?

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It also means however, that if we didn't separate sports by sex, there would not be a single female athlete in the top 1000 of almost every physical sport. That's unacceptable. Elite female athletes deserve an equal chance at sponsors, scholarships, championships, and prices.

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@GaryPayinda Why do you believe that congenital medical conditions are separate sexes? Why would you believe that women with Turner syndrome for example are not female? A spectrum is an ordered set of values; what sex(es) other than male and female exist, and in what order do they appear?

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@helenstaniland Hmm, remind me to put my instrument in the background next time. I'm sure everyone would love to see my huge organ.

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@G_ogenes It's not about whether they are transgender or not. It's about whether they are male or not. Which part of single-sex spaces did you not understand?

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@ThoughtSlime @jk_rowling In the UK? Women.

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@labourlewis @hogotheforsaken @shularises @AyoCaesar @novaramedia It's not? Could you provide some examples of women publicly calling for physical violence against transgender people while other people cheer them on?

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@mikecompetition @jk_rowling Judging from the transcript, I seriously doubt it. The question here is whether the LGBA did something worthy of revoking their charitable status, and it's clear that the allegations are based on a completely distorted view of reality on the part of Mermaids.

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@MAMelby @trixymalixy @helenstaniland That's exactly what we want as well, so it seems we have a deal then. Keep those penises away from women's safe spaces so we don't have to look at them or be ogled by their owners, and we should be getting on like a house on fire.

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@davecrossx If you allow people of the male sex to enter female single-sex spaces, you have indeed eradicated said space, because it is no longer single-sex. What part of single-sex is unclear to you?

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@thejamesmax @ThePosieParker @JeremyBalcombe @TalkTV How can a man be, in fact, a woman? What non-circular definition of the words "man" and "woman" could possibly make that a valid claim?

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@PathyMyazzz @helenstaniland @SophieMolly_OFF @bindelj @MForstater @ThePosieParker @jk_rowling It's not about skin nor hair texture, Joyce. It's about being born with testes. I think we can safely say that Helen has ovaries.

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@Masterfrogg @Pinko69420 As soon as you start attributing specific rights in law to chairs, this may actually become relevant.

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@PNW_Dude_18 Am I the only one seeing a group of people trying to watch (or ruin if you look at that last image) a professional baseball game without paying for it?

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@MinnOrchia @coldcoffee23567 @jk_rowling @dmf500 @MikeWhitton @GettingEricD What do you think it means to be a woman?

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@MAMelby @trixymalixy @helenstaniland I'm not demanding anyone have surgery, but IF your gender dysphoria is to the degree that you just HAVE to be in women's safe spaces in order to feel validated, the LEAST you can do is make sure you don't have male genitalia. Don't make your issues women's problems.

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@BoredGayBrennan @helenstaniland @Westies_Rock @TaliesinSwansea @SGResisters So women not wanting males in their female single-sex spaces is getting said males killed? How does that happen exactly?

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@sjwdebates @FondOfBeetles @Phildidgee @nia_stan @Scienceofsport @TLexercise @runthinkwrite @coachblade Why should that be relevant? Over 99.999% of males in the world could not defeat the female world champion in the 100m dash. That’s not a valid reason to allow them to compete in the female sports category.

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@ConceptualJames Sounds like cultural appropriation to me...

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1 year

@julietabego @RichardDawkins Yes, it is. 46, XX with CAH: female We don't live in the 20th century anymore.

A clinical algorithm to diagnose differences of sex development - PubMed

The diagnosis and management of children born with ambiguous genitalia is challenging for clinicians. Such differences of sex development (DSDs) are congenital conditions in which chromosomal,...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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1 year

@Womens_Aid @WomensAidNI MRAs do not need funding. You have forgotten that woman = adult female human.

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@stephenwhittle @TransClinicUK It truly is a mystery to you why sports are separated by sex, isn't it?

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@MAMelby @trixymalixy @helenstaniland If their gender dysphoria is not to the degree where they're willing to go through SRS, I see no reason to put their needs above those of women to be honest.

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@KathWertheim @hen10freeman @EllieAqua_III @StasiBarbie @EdieLizzard @MargOlive1029 @CorineNugteren @yarnydeb1 @JohannaSaunders Why do you believe it's an anti-trans issue rather than an anti-male issue? Is it truly so hard for you to accept that some or even many people prefer to have their care-taker be a member of the same sex as they are, for numerous and varying reasons?

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@festinagirl @Seinneann @helenstaniland Oh, I've done my research all right. The female sports category exists to provide safe, fair, and equal sports opportunities to female athletes. The differences between male and female world records is 10-50% after all; more than between adult and teenage world records.

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@JustSlamDunkin @jk_rowling Which marginalized group would that be exactly, and how do you think she's fighting against their progress?

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