Playoff Numbers (career)
McDavid
52 games
30g, 54a, 84 pts
Draisaitl
52 games
34g, 50a, 84 pts
Matthews
53 games
23g, 24a, 47 pts
Marner
53 games
10g, 38a, 48 pts
And people actually argue about which duo is better.
Come on man!!
IYKYK
Has to be said:
2023, Panthers beat Leafs, sweep next series.
2022, TB beat Leafs, sweep next series.
2021, Habs beat Leafs, sweep next series.
Leafs don’t make teams pay for winning a series. Too easy to play against.
22-23
McDavid was
1st in goals
1st in assists
1st in points
1st in pts/game
23-24
Matthews
1st in goals
T101st in assists
6th in points
5th in pts/game
Then ask yourself the question TSN is asking?
IYKYK
Hyman since signing with Oilers 3 yrs ago
Regular season
211 games
103 goals
196 pts
0.93 pts/g
Playoffs
28 games
14 goals
27 pts
0.96 pts/g
$5.5m AAV
Can he be considered best UFA signing in cap era?
Does anyone still think Auston Matthews is close to McDavid for the title as best player in the NHL?
Does anyone else still believe Auston Matthews is the 2nd best player in the NHL?
Come on man!!
@Jointgravy
That signing is alarming to those paying attention.
Ontario boy that was won a cup and knows what it takes to win had choice of staying with Leafs or moving to rebuilding Preds.
Screams he doesn’t believe he could win a cup in Toronto. Telling.
McDavid has reached 100 points on the season. Again.
This is McDavid’s 7th season and 5th recording 100 or more points.
No other players has done it more than twice in that stretch.
Can you imagine people thinking he is not the best player in the NHL.
Come on man!!
@dhockey13
Sabres got:
Tuch (former 1st rounder and proven NHL player)
Krebs (former 1st round and proven NHL player)
1st round pick
2nd round pick
How is Hagel return more than that?
Please explain.
So Mitch Marner has his charity event and didn’t give media credentials to TSN or Sportsnet.
Can someone give this guy media training.
Marner works for Leafs
Leafs owned by MLSE
MLSE owned by Bell and Rogers
Bell and Rogers own TSN and Sportsnet
Who is advising this guy?
Canes GM
Don Waddell, hired May 2018
inherited 21st place team that missed playoffs
In 5 yrs:
Reached 2nd rd every yr
Has now reached 2nd ECF
Canes have 4th best total regular season record over his 5 yrs.
His playoff roster has 4 guys he drafted.
Hired 3 days before Dubas!
Matthews is 26 yrs, just shy of 3 months old
He has 322 goals, 0.634 goals/game
To give reference at same age
Wayne, 543 goals, 0.859
Mario, 392 goals,0.8
Bossy, 365 goals, 0.783
Ovie, 311 goals, 0.616
Ovie is not the bar, Ovie is not even on the podium.
IYKYK
Chris Johnston is now reporting that Dubas has countered the Pens offer and would like a 50% increase in pay and more autonomy.
The increase was due to the tremendous stress experienced travelling through the Pittsburgh airport and trouble finding a good breakfast spot.
$40m forwards in the 2nd Round.
All played 5 games.
Matthews
0 goals, 2 assists, 2 points
-2
Tavares
0 goals, 1 assist, 1 point
-2
Marner
1 goal, 2 assists, 3 points
-2
Nylander
2 goals, 1 assists, 3 points
-2
Some guys get you to the playoffs
Some guys win you cups.
Oldest players in NHL are from 2003 draft.
From the 2003 draft to the 2016 draft,
14 draft classes
only 3 players selected 1st overall have not reached a conference final.
2009 John Tavares $11m
2012 Nail Yakapov, playing in KHL
2016 Auston Matthews, $11.6m
@KayReneeESQ
@hedgehogkibble
@Phil_Lewis_
If you are hosting a wedding the expectation should not be to have your guests pay for the celebration.
Are they invoicing the guest that attended and did not provide a sufficient gift to cover meal cost?
Come on man!
Weddings are celebrations not business transactions.
Anyone else think the pan was always Samsonov and Kallgren knowing they would get $4.7m in cap space to bring up Robertson, activate Lily and bring up another body.
That is why Dubas only wanted Sens to retain 25%. He wanted the biggest LTIR hit possible.
@NHL_Watcher
Easiest fix is to set an AAV cap on the 20 players dressed in any playoff game.
The 20 players dressed combined regular season AAV cannot exceed the cap.
Teams can carrying $100m in AAV contracts but can only dress $83.5m of that total in any playoff game.
Had Dubas not made trades or signed JT
Hyman,AM,Marner
Knies,Kadri,Nylander
Marchment,———,Jarvis
Grundstrom,———,———
Morgan,Brodie
Sandin,Lily
Bjornfot $1.7m,Durzi
Gio
Samsonov $4m, Woll
$9.6m in cap space.
Opportunities lost!!!
Leafs entering season have a D core and goalie of
Morgan, McCabe, Timmins, Benoit, Webber, Woll
Leafs have about $18.5m in cap space.
Leaf fans want to spend $10m of that cap space on Bertuzzi and Domi!
Leaving $8.5m to upgrade Dcore and goalie tandem.
When will they learn?
@Ken_Campbell27
Yeah terrible.
Look at all the fans heading for the exits in disgust.
Ken, this is a very rare happening in the NHL, all players were ejected from the game. For those that don’t like it stop watching because so many more will tune it to view it.
IYKYK
Kevin Bieksa is excellent on TV but that guy belongs either behind the bench or on an executive staff.
Really smart hockey guy.
It is like guys that played 800 games in the NHL know somethings about the game.
Frankie Corrado on OverDrive with some fresh takes and great insight.
Brings up how Leafs cost Sandin money by moving him to AHL to save cap space and that might be part of reason Sandin is now squeezing out Leafs for more salary.
Excellent perspective!
@OverDrive1050
@WatchMyReview
Edna, here is basic difference between NHL and MLS.
Of the best 500 hockey players in the world all 500 play in the NHL.
Of the best 500 soccer players in the world NONE play in the MLS.
MLS is the East Coast league of soccer.
@TOSportsAdam
Oilers are 13-8-0 vs the Eastern Conference.
Leafs are 11-11-6 vs the Eastern Conference.
So if Oilers were in East they would be more like Rangers or Panthers and not the Leafs.
Facts are fun.
@GHod29
@NHL
Since 2016-2017 the Leafs record with a chance to close out a series win is 0-9.
Odds of that happening is 512-1!
How many of those games were Wes’ fault?
@HayesTSN
Matthews, Marner, Nylander, JT
29 games played
57 goals
73 assists
130 points
MvDavid, Draisaitl, RNH, Hyman
28 games played
67 goals
94 assists
161 points
Math is hard!
@MogilnysVisor89
Career stats
pts/game regular season
Leon 1.17
Matthews 1.15
Pts/game playoffs
Leon 1.57 (best in cap era)
Matthews 0.88
Yeah, why would anyone think Leon is the better player. lol
@reporterchris
That’s not good for Tampa.
I heard Furlatt’s uncle is married to Cooper’s father’s ex-girlfriend from high school in 1965.
It was a brutal break up and the two families still hold a grudge.
Huge conflict of interest CJ.
Leafs big tonight.
@BertuzziForHart
So the Kings, who are in midst of a rebuild, are trading two young, cheap and contract controlled players for 1 yr of Marner at $10.9m?
WTF would the Kings even consider that deal Bert?
@ryanwhitney6
Ryan, you and Biz are piped into the league, coaches, agents, players. You helped break the Babs story.
You can't find players willing to share a the truth about what a player may have done to get terminated?
Put your contacts to work and find out the truth.
@LalimesMartian
I have no issue with the players involved facing some sort of suspension from NHL or their own franchise.
My question is how will NHL be ‘punishing’ Hockey Canada for their obvious attempts to cover up the incident?
Punish the kids, sure!
Don’t let the adults involved walk!
Trade Proposal:
Nylander, Mrazek, Liljegren, prospect
for
Scheifele and Hellebuyck
Basically gives Leafs a gritty top flight forward that can play center & top flight goalie for 2 more seasons. Short term upgrades and only giving up Lily and prospect for two shots at a cup.
For those that continue to compare Matthews career path to Ovie.
There was a big reason Caps kept running it back around Ovie.
After his entry level deal, Ovie signed a 13 year deal with Caps. Ovie committed his career to playing in Washington.
Matthews made no such deal.
Keefe just made a mistake in his press conference.
‘The difference between us and Arizona is we have elite players’.
That insults the other players and tells the world his team lost to a team he has no respect for. Not good.
Show some humility!
@SportsnetSpec
How many other NHL players have 19 consecutive 20 goal seasons?
One other guy and it is not Wayne.
From here on in EVERY Ovie goal should be celebrated.
IYKYK
Dubas UFA signings last two off seasons
Jarnkrok $2.1m
Benn $750k
Mete 750k
Samsonov $1.8m
Aube-Kubel $1m
Gaudette $750m
Ritchie $2.5m dumped with a pick
Kase $1.25m
Mrazek $3.8m dumped with a pick
Kampf $1.5m
Bunting 950k
Lots of game changers and culture changers.
Tavares (31 yrs old)
37 games
15 goals
21 assists
36 points
+5
$11m (3 more yrs)
Kadri (31 yrs old)
37 games
16 goals
36 assists
52 points
+ 16
Pending UFA
Kadri best 2nd line Centre in NHL.
Someone is going to get paid large.
@EditorinLeaf
Playoffs
Leafs Duo:
39 games each
24 goals (total)
66 points (total)
0-6 in playoff series
$22.5m (5 and 6 yr terms)
Oilers Duo
37 games each
39 goals (totals)
114 points (totals)
Western Conference Finals
$21m AAV (8 yr terms)
Your turn!!
How is Alexander Mogilny still not getting into the Hockey Hall of Fame?
990 games
473 goals
1032 points
If he is not getting in then there are some guys in HHOF that need to be removed.
@racheldoerrie
Bouchard should have collapsed and stayed down until he was stretched off the ice and not returned.
NHL would have had to suspend Ekblad for the rest of the series.
So Dubas adds a big, defensive minded, physical D.
Where are all the Leaf fans that thought grit and physicality were not important?
I think he is a great addition to the roster.
Elliott Friedman just lost his mind thinking Matthews is a more ‘well rounded’ player than Barkov.
EF appeasing his bosses with that take.
Ownership of the media in full fandom mode tonight.
OMG
Marner’s Playoff ‘culture’
Playoff stats:
Chance to win a series (1-10)
Marner
11 games
0 goals
4 assists
4 pts
In winner take all games (0-5)
Marner
5 games
0 goals
2 assists
2 pts
So what exactly are you afraid of losing?
Definitely not a clutch, winner!
IYKYK
the marner culture war is interminable. leafs fans have made their decision - he is the problem, he is the playoff sin eater. any recognition that he did anything positive in the postseason is rejected out of hand because he has to be the reason
@BigHeadHcky
Most Points pre game from a winger the last 5 seasons.
Kucherov 1.42
Panarin 1.23
Pasta 1.22
Marner 1.22
Rantanen 1.20
Marchand 1.17
Missing games to injury shouldn’t skew the data.
Kucherov (by far) most productive winger over last 5 years.
If you know, you know.
@BruinsBenders
Did anyone watch the playoffs?
Top flight offensive guys are shut down by good and above average D.
You don’t trade a top 5-8 D in the NHL and more for a centre. Maybe McDavid but short of McDavid you don’t move McAvoy plus more.
And I think Leon is a beast.
@HappyPhilTML
Well Phil
When the NHL playoffs start the NHL post the playoffs brackets and teams play their opponents in a best of 7 series.
The winning teams continue to play.
The Oilers got to the finals because they beat the three teams they had to face.
Hope that helps explain it.
Dubas
History with 1st Round Picks since 2018
'18: trade down 25th for 29th (Sandin) & 76th
'19: trade Muzzin
'20: trade dump Marleau
'21: Trade Foligno
'22: trade down 25th to 38th to dump Mrazek
'23: trade for ROR
'25: trade for McCabe
Traded seven 1st rd picks in 5 yrs
@BigHeadLeafs_
Big Head
2024 Bruins 7th place
2023 Tampa 13th, Panthers 18th
2022 Tampa 8th
2021 Habs 18th
2020 Jackets 13th
2019 Bruins 3rd
2018 Bruins 4th
2017 Caps 1st
Leafs haven’t played a top of the league team in the first round since 2019 season.
Just the facts.
IYKYK
@NHL_Watcher
Sorry everyone but if hockey (NHL or IIHF) is going to have a 'World Cup' and excludes a team that would ice
Ovie, Kuckerov, Malkin, Panarin, Kaprizov
Sergachev, Zadorov
Vasy, Shesterkin
Then that competition cannot be considered a World event.
False Cup!
@Ken_Campbell27
It may be time for you to stop covering and watching hockey. You obviously do not like the game.
Lots of options out there. Go find something you enjoy.
Life is too short to live it out as a contrarian.
Leafs fans can stop complaining about the division playoff set up. They are in the sweet spot right now.
Currently lined up to play Canes and then winner of Rangers and Pens. They can avoid Tampa, Panthers and Bruins all the way to ECF.
Maybe Dubas has figured it out.
@MogilnysVisor89
Matthews will have more goals on regular season and Leon will have more assists in regular season
Leon will have more goals and more assists in the playoffs.
Does that help you understand who is better? lol
@Ken_Campbell27
@NHLPlayerSafety
If you hate hockey so much why spend so much time covering it?
Take your skills and cover something that brings you joy.
@ChrisBarr3314
The title for best player in the NHL is not based on cups.
It it was Pat Maroon would be the best player in the NHL.
Chris, do you think Pat Maroon is the best player in the NHL?
@EditorinLeaf
Mitch Marner career stats
Pts/60 5v5
Regular season: 2.47
Playoffs: 1.31
MacKinno career stats
Pts/60 5v5
Regular Season: 2.24
Playoffs: 2.53
Anyone want to help
@EditorinLeaf
understand the significance of these production (or lack of production) numbers?
@MrFrankoTanko
@DarrenDreger
They are not elite athletes. They are professional athletes working in a billion dollar industry.
People need to stop equating professional hockey to minor hockey.
Not the same. Not remotely close.
@frank_seravalli
I am glad Kyle took the time to understand their roles and responsibilities and contributions to the org before making a decision to terminate employment.
A productive 24 hours. Lol
@walsha
Allan can you factor in the roster sizes of the NBA relative to the NHL.
I have it in good authority one of the roster sizes is much larger than the other.
But you are the math guy so I will have you confirm that you are comparing apples or apples.
For Leafs fans:
Only Canes went up 2-0, they are better than Bruins.
All these teams are really good, including the Leafs. So what a game was lost, anyone thinking sweep was insane.
Leafs will win at least another game and may win series. All these teams can win on the road.
Edna’s hits list of the past 4-5 years
Bob worst contract in the NHL
Maurice terrible coach, recycled loser.
OEL terrible player.
Has Edna ever been right on anything hockey related?
Ever?
@lukefoxjukebox
Here is a thought, nothing but a hunch.
Could it be players that come to Leafs from teams that has top flight coaches look at Keefe like he has no clue and just don’t respond to him?
Bogo
ROR
Foligno
Schenn
Now guys like
Domi and Bertuzzi
There has to be something there.
Remember in the off season when Leaf fans were gushing over the additions of
Benn, Mete, ZAR, NAK, Gaudette, Jarnkrok, Malgin
Come playoffs it is very likely only Jarnkrok plays for the Leafs.
Someone else is influencing direction!!!
@NHLPlayerSafety
@Sportsnet
The NHL has announced that Flames, Nazem Kadri has been suspended for the first 10 games of the 2023-2024 NHL regular season.
@ProducerDrew_
So the NHL cap is set to increase about $4m and Nylander is set to get about a $4.6m raise.
With Matthews already set to get a $1.6m raise.
Wouldn’t that mean bleeding more talent just to keep the core 4 guys?
And people still believe the Leafs aren’t in a cap crunch. Lol
@BigHeadLeafs_
lol. Really.
Oilers lost to Vegas last year, Vegas won the cup.
Oilers lost to Avs in 2022, Avs won the cup that season.
Vegas and Avs beat the teams that knocked off the Leafs.
Do you stop watching hockey after Leafs are eliminated?
IYKYK
@EditorinLeaf
Playoff games by their 26th Bday.
MacKinnon
50 games
28 goals
41 assists
69 points
3-5 in playoff series
Marner
50 games
10 goals
37 assists
47 points
1-7 in playoff series
End of the lesson.
If you know, you know!
Are the Flames the best Canadian team in the NHL now?
Do the Flames give Canada the best chance to win a Stanley Cup?
Who would have thought that at the beginning of the season?
@KayReneeESQ
@hedgehogkibble
@Phil_Lewis_
Agreed.
Also easy to forget about a $240 payment for two meals on the most important day of your life and let it go.
As I mentioned, would you be okay if they invoiced guest that did not sufficiently cover the cost of meal?
What if guests attended and provide no gift?
@ProducerDrew_
Why did you use 70 points as a determining factor Drew? Did you start with an answer and then find the question that provided that answer?
Asking for a friend.
IYKYK
@BR_OpenIce
@KyleMcCartan
Ref let them go?
Once the two big boys decided they were going there was no one stopping them.
Very smart of the officials to not try to stop it.
@jonassiegel
Two questions that should have been asked as a follow up.
1. Can you provide an example of when it was handled well in the past?
2. Wouldn’t part of the responsibility of the lack of response be your responsibility?
Were these questions asked Jonas?
@BWildeMTL
Which part of ‘the last two cup winners’ would make any hockey fan no consider the Avs.
BS take on your part that gets blown up by the team that won the cup 12 months ago.
The 2020 Lightning were also cap compliment.
Be better.
If you know, you know.
@KPapetti
Leafs have selected
1st Matthews
4th Marner
5th Rielly
7th Kadri
8th Nylander
Signed
Tavares 1st
Jumbo 1st
Spezza 2nd
Bogo 3rd
And have not been past 1st round of playoffs.
But they do tremendously in the regular season.
@ryanfancey
@CarltonLeafs
What does Tanev having 9 points have to do with his value to a roster? Teams don’t trade for Tanev to add scoring. Rosters need all types of players, the ones that stop ‘points’ are also very valuable.
Goalies don’t get points but everyone wants a great one.