I graduated from law school 6 years ago with $250,000 of student loan debt. But after years of hard work and tens of thousands of dollars of payments, I can officially say that I now owe $315,000.
Hooray!
There's been a lot of terrible news recently, but I feel like we skipped over the fact that SCOTUS last week said that "innocence is not enough" to prevent someone from being executed for a crime that they did not commit.
Lots of people saying that I should have thought through school before taking loans and I need more financial education.
Fun facts: I did and I don't! The plan is discussed more in the comments and I write about personal finance (among other things) here:
@TomHuntIsLame
An affront to the state! Thomas said that there was so much evidence of his innocence that it would be an undue burden to make the state look at it all! The whole thing is bonkers.
On Hannity, Truth Social, Newsmax - all the places where it is legal to flat out lie - Trump is saying that he declassified all the documents.
In court, where there are consequences to lying, Trump refuses to say on record that he declassified anything at all.
By the end of this clip, Trump almost completely decomposes.
If you saw someone on a sidewalk talking this way, you’d put your phone to your ear, stare at the ground and cross the street as fast as possible.
Via
@atrupar
@thegiveandget
@Done_by_Forty
I'm mostly okay with it. I made my decision to go into public service rather than taking a big paycheck, so the numbers get ugly but the IBR payments are manageable and the debt will go away after 10 years of service. There are times I wish I had more flexibility, but alas.
@The76KProject
@StIroningShirts
Someone suggested I check out a guy named Dave Ramsey after saying I need more financial education. Bruh...I'm a personal finance writer!
@FelicityFFF
@thegiveandget
@Done_by_Forty
Yeah. Can't take something unless I'm sure it would qualify for forgiveness, which is a gray area for a lot of non-profits. Also can't take mini-retirements or quit a 9-5 to freelance or be a stay-at-home dad.
Not buying lunch at work has saved me about $150/month, although some of that is offset by higher grocery spending.
Not paying for daycare and student loans has saved me around $7,000/month.
Can we all shut up about the latte factor?
Today I learned that Benjamin Franklin aggressively protested against the smallpox vaccine until his own son died of the disease and he went on to strongly revoke all of his former anti-vaxx views.
If you make over $400,000 and can't afford to pay higher taxes, maybe you should take some personal responsibility and get better at managing your money.
Bill Gates wears his $70 watch while hanging around his 66,000 square foot $150,000,000 home. Warren Buffett spends $3.17 for breakfast before flying off in his private jet.
When I first got into FI I felt pressured to cut my own hair to save money. I got dragged into competitive frugality
Eventually I recognized that I would only save $100/year and would look less professional at work
Be sure to stop and think before following any financial advice
I don't think non-lawyers grasp how destructive it will be if SCOTUS eliminates Chevron deference.
The idea of overturning Chevron is one of those things that Roberts loves because it is of massive importance and normal people don't understand or care.
Jackson now getting how "IMPRACTICAL and CHAOTIC" (her words, my emphasis) it will be to try to govern in a post-Chevron world where every single court can change an agency rule whenever it wants.
@stephonee
FedLoan Servicing () actually has good information and is helpful. DO NOT TRUST ANYTHING SALLIE MAE OR NAVIENT SAY. My deadline is later than it should be because both gave me bad information as my loans were passed around.
The fury and passion from the anti loan forgiveness people is baffling.
It's an issue that would have literally no direct impact on your life. It helps people who need help and doesn't hurt you. How can you work up such strong opinions about it?
It's pretty wild that we let 17-year-olds with no financial education make decisions on how many tens of thousands of dollars of debt they want. You're too immature to drink or smoke or rent a car, but you can make one of the most massive financial decisions of your life.
The personal finance community's obsession with used cars is absurd. The median poor person is, by necessity, more frugal than you when it comes to spending on cars.
It's not the car. It's the income.
Looking at all these $700,000 homes that last sold in the '80s for under $100,000. I think I understand why out-of-touch Boomers think "just buy a house" is reasonable advice.
Money Twitter insists that there's no such thing as privilege and that success is accessible to anyone who hustles, while simultaneously being obsessed with creating generational wealth to give their kids a leg up.
Every time money Twitter debates Dave Ramsey, they miss the simplest conclusion:
Dave Ramsey is a terrible person and top tier misogynist and you should not give money to terrible misogynists.
I don't care how good/bad his advice is. He doesn't deserve your money or attention.
A 55-person wedding in Maine in August led to 178 cases of COVID with 7 deaths and 3 major hospitalizations. None of the people who died or were hospitalized attended the wedding. Some lived 100 miles away.
Stop pretending that your dumb choices are only risking your own life.
Every time I tweet support for higher taxes on the rich, I get replies telling me that I only think that because I'm poor and don't get it, and somehow I have thus far avoided the temptation of going full
@BridgieCasey
and just saying "I make more than you. Take a seat, Steve."
In case you were wondering whether saving money is harder with kids, we're spending $36,000 a year.
Just for daycare and increased housing costs.
For one child.
Feel like it might have been a mistake to tell an entire generation of kids that they can be and do anything when they grow up and then hand them a planet on the brink of catastrophe and a gutted, unregulated, libertarian hellscape of an economy.
The constant personal finance advice to move somewhere cheaper is asinine. There are lots of aspects of life (money, happiness, security, etc.) where your network is your most valuable asset: friends, family, professional connections. Even loving where you are has immense value!
Money twitter acts as if wealthy people are frugal and poor people are awash in expensive luxuries and I just don't understand how you could live in the world and think that.
Can we call it quits on the "poor person with a new iPhone" trope? I promise you that that $30/month is not the dividing line between poverty and wealth.
The implication in all of these takes is that family is important enough for liberals to make sacrifices for their conservative family members, but not important enough for conservatives to make sacrifices for their liberal family members.
Starting to think that "You'll get more conservative as you get older." was just Boomers trying to normalize and excuse their own increasing selfishness.
I've said it a bunch before, but one of the problems in the personal finance space is that most advice is specifically geared towards upper-middle income people but marketed as if it is for everyone.
My coworker just got his loans forgiven through the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program! I am so happy for him and also unexpectedly relieved to see it work in real life.
Personal finance twitter spent years fighting over growth investing vs. value investing and dividend stocks vs. index funds and then Reddit turns around and makes $13 billion in a couple days off of straight troll investing.
@cloudgrammer
@courtneycols
"Are loan amounts forgiven under PSLF considered taxable by the IRS?
No. According to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), student loan amounts forgiven under PSLF are not considered income for tax purposes."
Just curious: does the personal finance community have thoughts about someone spending their days tweeting from an iphone while they're $400 million in debt?
Me: Make sure you drink your water.
3yo: Why we need to drink water?
Me: Because it's super hot out.
3yo: No. It's because we need to stay hydrated.
Me: You're right, bud. We need to stay hydrated.
3yo: Don't wanna be lowdrated.
@AwkwardOrmsbee
@bullorbust
I'm all for more financial education. We do a horrible job teaching kids about money. But that wouldn't have changed anything here. My loans aren't huge because I didn't know what I was getting into. They're huge because I turned down massive paychecks to work in public interest.
So much bad advice in the personal finance space comes from people with solid incomes seeing some of the people around them making suboptimal spending decisions and then thinking "Oh, this must be why poor people are poor!"
Me (chanting): tree. law. tree. law.
The rest of Twitter: tree. law. TREE. LAW.
LA City Controller Kenneth Mejia (pounding his clipboard): TREE! LAW! TREE! LAW!
Our Office is investigating the tree trimming that occurred outside Universal Studios where workers, writers, and actors are exercising their right to picket.
The trimmed trees are LA City managed street trees.
(Before and after photos below)
I think the most upsetting thing about the personal finance community is the constant prioritization of efficiency over empathy. People get so wrapped up in the numbers that they forget to be human.
Dear businesses,
It would be much easier to be an equal partner in parenting if you put changing tables in the men's rooms rather than just the women's.
Thanks,
Matt
Financial independence is based on the idea that the most valuable thing you can spend your money on is time. And yet, people keep spending a ton of time on low-paying side hustles.
For a community that thinks a lot about money, I'm not sure we’ve thought this one through.
When I grew up in Massachusetts everyone said they were socially liberal and fiscally conservative. It wasn't until I left that I realized that was saying "I don't dislike people from marginalized groups, but I don't want to spend any money to make them less marginalized."
Comparing the image of Ketanji Brown Jackson smiling and responding politely to racist questions against Brett Kavanaugh shouting and crying and vowing revenge and knowing they're going to get the same job really highlights the different standards for white men and Black women.
Having now cut my own hair twice during quarantine, I can say this:
The difference in quality between a $20 barber shop haircut and a $100 salon haircut is not worth it.
The difference between a free DIY haircut and a cheap $20 haircut is absolutely worth it every single time.
I love that
@ramit
's most controversial tweets are always like "Run the numbers for yourself" or "Question conventional wisdom before you make decisions" and people lose their mind.
Oh no, getting married, having kids, maybe assembling a swing set for them on the weekend. What a cursed existence!
The most universal wellsprings of meaning are also the most abundant: Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk have held a public demonstration of this over the last weeks.
2021 BAD TAKES BRACKET
Your votes will decide the worst money take of the year! These are takes about money and personal finance (with a few non-money takes from personal finance figures thrown in, as well).
Vote for the worst take in each matchup to advance to the next round.
@financialgladi1
Mostly 6.8%. I'm on an income-based repayment program for Public Service Loan Forgiveness and my income is low enough that my payments don't cover the monthly principal.
Michael Cohen and Rudy Giuliani failed to learn the lesson that my Ethics professor tried to drill into us:
If someone has to go to jail, make sure it's the client.
This is not hard, y'all.
I am wealthier than my colleagues because I save and invest more.
I am wealthier than the vast majority of Americans because I make more money than they do.
Anyone who downplays the role of high income in building wealth is trying to sell you something
Ok, we've got it. I've created a 32-take bracket to find 2020's worst personal finance take/advice. I've broken them out into categories, with two match-ups per category. Four categories were particularly emphasized by *gestures wildly* 2020 while four are more generic.
What I've learned from being a lawyer on Twitter is that Americans believe the Constitution gives them whatever freedoms they feel they should have at any given moment.
Also, nobody knows what HIPAA is.
I know there are a lot of blogs documenting people's goal to FIRE by X age, but has anyone started a blog about their goal to FIRE before the inevitable collapse of civilization?
The idea that the rich will just stop working if their taxes go up is a weird Ayn Randian fantasy for a lot of reasons.
The top marginal rate ranged from 63% to 92%(!) from 1932 to 1980 and we were fine. People are less selfish than libertarians give them credit for.
@moneyaftergrad
Yes, just soak the rich. I’m sure they’ll keep working just to keep 20-50% of what they earn. What could go wrong? I know doctors trying to retire ASAP partly because they’re sick of working for four months just to pay taxes so others can get $10K per baby.
Your 2nd Amendment is under very serious attack in the Great Commonwealth of Virginia. That’s what happens when you vote for Democrats, they will take your guns away. Republicans will win Virginia in 2020. Thank you Dems!
Don't avoid depression meds if you actually suffer from depression.
Also, don't tell people to. Acting like you can just cure depression with exercise and painting medication as a last resort leads people who need medication to feel like failures and increases risk of suicide.