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Permanent Capital Financing Science Longtermism @GoldmanSachs , Finiam Investments, KHORA Tx

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I am on a mission to become the greatest dinner guest of all time. Be interesting. Be interested.
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How to lose $35 billion of market cap in less than 2 years Peloton CEO John Foley is stepping down after investors voiced grave concerns in a presentation to the company The wild part? The presentation is PUBLIC...and oh boy is it ugly for $PTON management My breakdown ⬇️
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Ted Bundy is one the most accomplished serial killers of all time. No one since has come close to his accomplishments. Here are 7 frameworks from Ted you can use to build a better product at your startup 🧵
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This is niche but if you get it you get it. Cc @litcapital
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Today Elon Musk became the richest man in the world with his net worth reaching $255 billion What's crazier? He is now worth more than every MLB, NBA, and NFL team...combined at $241 billion
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Go read a book or something.
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14/ Mismanagement While the criticism is harsh...some of the comments they dug up were jarring...mainly Foley self admitting that he was not a great manager Oh and also that he fucking HATES finance
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The NBA could soon be looking to expand the league and add a new franchise to the mix. One of the main suitors? Sin City. Las Vegas has recently supercharged its sports ecosystem. Is an NBA team going to be next? Lets take a look
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@AlexHormozi @Codie_Sanchez Too long of a time horizon. Be born rich, much easier.
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@pitdesi $73.73 per barrel
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4/ Exec Summary IV BW identified 5 areas where $PTON has f**ked up with the finger pointing going directly towards management 1) Lack of mgmt qualifications 2) Poor decision making (ouch) 3) Lack of financial discipline 4) Misalignment of Interests 5) Loss of credibility
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1/ Executive Summary I In the initial slide Blackwells ("BW") lays out $PTONs business model and some of the key merits of the biz... BUT also calls out the execution errors by mgmt which have led to the 76% decline in share value
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In 2014 the Milwaukee Bucks were bought by two titans in the private equity industry Marc Lasry & Wes Edens bought the franchise for $550 mm In 2021, the Bucks were valued at $1.63 bn - an increase of 295% Turns out - private equity in the NBA were just getting started
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If you enjoyed this please consider: 1) giving the first tweet in the thread a RT (below) 2 giving me a follow. I write doomsday threads about cycling companies whenever activist investors come knocking :)
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How to lose $35 billion of market cap in less than 2 years Peloton CEO John Foley is stepping down after investors voiced grave concerns in a presentation to the company The wild part? The presentation is PUBLIC...and oh boy is it ugly for $PTON management My breakdown ⬇️
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13/ Mismanagement Slide 24 of the presentation reads more like a high-school diss track than a shareholder pres...BW was out for Foley's blood
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This complex diagram explains how YouTube got me to give away my money. @TrungTPhan what we think?
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How did the worlds number one sports brand manage to grow throughout the tumult of 2021? The answer might surprise you. But it shouldn't. @Nike impressive year of growth ⬇️
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17/ Mismanagement Then there is insider selling. The company's CEO sold nearly $100 million worth of shares during 2021 while spouting "unbridled optimism" about the company
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28/ Check out the source here:
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5/ Exec Summary V Call to Action BW is imploring the board to look at a sale of the company b/c... "A stand-alone $PTON cannot achieve its potential" The suitors suggested are broken down into acquirers from: -Media & Content -Tech & Devices -Sporting Goods -Online Subs
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3/ Exec Summary III Turns out that hasn't helped much recently... The title of the 7th slide is the following "Peloton's Performance has been Abysmal" And to be frank a 76% reduction in share price is pretty bad
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My new favorite aphorism by @hubermanlab And it has nothing to do with these usual health topics In a pod he did with @tomseguy he disclosed one of his most important tattoos "New Stories" Never become a person who relies on old stories Constantly seek new adventures
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Follow me for more KILLER threads…
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16/ Mismanagement There is also the company's spending on office space... $450 million on NYC office space...kinda steep.
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Closing The presentation is NUTS and I rec going through it to draw your own conclusions Biggest takeaway? The amount of existing sub conversion from the likes of $DIS $AMZN or $SPOT to reach value accretion is low An acquisition seems a lot more probable than I thought
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Some News: Today is my first day at @FOS I will be joining the team as a senior business analyst looking to bring some of my banking background into the sports industry. I am very grateful for my time at @GoldmanSachs and even more excited for this new opportunity. Lets get it
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🚨 Life Update 🚨 I made a pretty drastic career change. I now work for Shepherd Therapeutics -- a biotech company focused on rare cancers. Our mission is simple: provide better outcomes for cancer patients through personalized medicine. Here's what you need to know:
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8/ The Business Merits Here's where it gets good... The subscriber and total workout growth has been insane...and the business has a contribution margin between 60%-70%
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6/ The Business Merits Peloton remains disruptive as it fundamentally improves the fitness experience across two key variables: 1) Convenience 2) Cost Like Amazon, Apple, Spotify, and Netflix -- its a consumer product that makes their lives easier
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2/ Executive Summary II The merits of the biz are the same they have been since the 2019 initial price run-up -Large TAM -Largest fitness platform -Recurring sub rev -Low churn -Network effects -Significant IP Pretty good right?
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🎾Imagine being the captain of an D1 Sports Team 📕Now Imagine that D1 sports team was at @Harvard ⛰️You think you have reached your academic and athletic peak right? Wrong 📈Here's The story of how @whoop founder @willahmed built a unicorn on the idea that good can be better
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@ShaanVP @TrungTPhan @theallinpod @chamath @friedberg @DavidSacks @Jason Well done. Been trying to order chicken madrasas for weeks on DoorDash
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@AndrewPetcash That’s a lot of ayahuasca
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@bentigg @PrivatEquityGuy If you added a comma this would just be an invite to a good time.
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18/ Board Issues Something that hasn't been discussed much is the board. With inadequate shareholder rights, lack of board independence, and misaligned performance incentives, there is reason for concern.
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9/ Current Stock Price According to BW the stock is undervalued The peer set they selected (matchgroup, NFLX, Roku, SiriusXM, Spotify) are trading at an avg. multiple of (EV/NTM Rev.) of 5.6x Implying a share price of $57.79 - $87.75 Current Share price: $39.24
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@SievaKozinsky @antoniogm Javier Bardem. No Country for Old Men.
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20/ Time for a Sale Potential Acquirers? Well there is a whole list! From Sony, to Meta, to Berkshire (rumor has it Buffet cycles...kidding), to the usual's such as... $DIS $GOOGL $AMZN $NKE
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15/ Mismanagement The management of the tragic death of a child and CPSC subsequently issuing statements about the danger of the Tread+ were brutally mismanaged The company first denied the issue...and ultimately changed its tune
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Disney flexing all over Google by disallowing ESPN and it’s other properties on the platform speaks to a thesis that has been playing out a bunch recently. Quality and differentiated IP might be THE most valuable asset you can own.
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@dickiebush Height and three-point range.
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11/ Underperformance This quote sums up their concerns pretty well...
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7/ The Business Merits Then there's the market... According to BW: -Global wellness spending of ~4.2 trillion with fitness representing $600 billion - 180 million gym memberships as of 2018 with 62 million in the U.S.
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I am the Son of an Addict. It feels strange writing this for what I think is the first time. It has probably been one of the most consistent defining characteristics of my life, yet I have never actually written it down. It’s interesting how that happened. I have ascribed many
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21/ Time for a sale Key acquirers could pay $75/share and only require a small amount of their subscriber base to convert in order to make existing shareholders "whole"
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@VCBrags Ok I’ll bite…what’s Uber?
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@elonmusk @cameron Elon says titanic and my mind just goes straight to...
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@litcapital Woman of of the people
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Tom Brady’s retirement was short-lived…but his business career has continued full steam ahead. With $293M in career on-field earnings, Brady is the highest-compensated NFL Player of all-time. Here's why his business dealings could overshadow even his on-field earnings. 🧵⤵️
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@WillManidis @zachweinberg Let me get two alaskan airlines and a spirit. I’ll trade you for one KLM first class and a mega bus.
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19/ Time for a Sale BW is advocating for a sale. The subscriber base is a premium asset and they are afraid that the board and management will devalue that asset to the point of making it a less attractive sale target.
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Recently @rogerfederer ranked as the 7th highest earning athlete in 2021 by @Forbes The Swiss tennis Legend earned $90 million in the past year The crazy part? He is about to get a major payday from a 2019 investment that could seriously up that number Let's break it down 🧵
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10/ Underperformance Any way you slice it...it doesn't look great: Down 84% over the past 12 months we are now almost at the IPO price of $29 The reason? BW believes it's Foley
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⚾️Today the worlds largest company is getting into the sports streaming game. 🍏 Apple will rolling out its Friday Night Baseball package for the first time tonight. 📺The move by Apple could be a warning sign for Netflix who has yet to enter the streaming game Let’s dig in⬇️
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There is something very profound about realizing you were wrong about a decision in life and being ok with it and MORE importantly moving on and/or pivoting. Here's an example. I have been very self-concious for a while now that I fucked up in undergrad. I have always loved
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@TrungTPhan Traveling with someone else’s wife and kid: priceless
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⌚️Congrats to the @whoop team for raising $200 million in a round led by SoftBank 💰The deal values Whoop at $3.6 bn and makes it the #1 most valuable standalone wearables company
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BREAKDOWN: Activist investor Blackwells capital is at it again. Today, the firm that initially called for a change in Peloton management published a presentation calling for a sale of Peloton...again. An analysis of Blackwells’ call to action for Peloton ⤵️
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12/ Underperformance Wall Street is also in on the underperformance thesis with the second highest amount of short interest (individuals currently holding securities to short the stock) and % "Sell" or "Hold" ratings
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The KICKS economy is probably bigger than you think... It’s now estimated that the global athletic footwear market is $127 billion... and still growing. The key driver in that growth? You guessed it — technology. Check out my breakdown of the sneaker economy:
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With the Austrian Grand Prix behind us we have reached the halfway point in the F1 season. Interestingly enough — F1 has seen viewership balloon to above 1.5 million viewers in the U.S. alone. What’s causing the renewed interest? See my newest for @FOS
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@JoePompliano I’m like 90% sure the Ricard Mile watch is the same as the watch from spy kids but don’t @ me
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Work relentlessly to find your tribe. Once you get that foundational group you really stop caring about…well all the shit that doesn’t matter. They’re the people you get to play infinite games with. And who doesn’t want to play games just for the sake of playing?
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The Peloton saga continues... This chapter involves a trojan horse in the form of rusty bikes invading the homes of consumers "Project Tinman" has been the latest in a list of missteps for the company Does Peloton need to get out of the hardware business? Lets take a look ⬇️
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Hey @knightsofdegen how do I look?
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This was fascinating. From deal mechanics of the $3billion breakup fee… To the potential this opens up for more gaming M&A… This acquisition could be an industry defining one.
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Microsoft’s $69B purchase of Activision Blizzard was so massive, that it could’ve also bought: - Every MLB team - Every NHL team 2x - 29 NBA teams - 22 NFL teams - As of Friday, Peloton’s entire business ~8x over More on the largest deal in tech history from @LiamKillingstad  ⤵️
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The most popular soccer league in the world is losing its Chairman. The reason? In large part, the Introduction of an unwanted owner in the form of the Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund THREAD: The Newcastle United Ownership Dilemma
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What if Nike’s Run in China is Over? A question has arisen over recent trends in consumer behaviors overseas. The “Fujian Tigers” are now strong contenders to take market share away from brands like the Swoosh. How do we know this? Let’s take a look. ⤵️
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@chrishlad You are just applying your value set to all of society. That’s wrong. One of my best friends parents committed suicide due to work stress before my friend turned 10. His #1 priority in life now is to build meaningful relationships in life. That’s it. He’s willing to work 20
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@sweatystartup @Cokedupoptions How it started: How’s its going:
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Lionel Messi is taking part of the his salary in Crypto 💰A lot of talk around the former Barcelona star getting part of his salary paid in crypto 💰While $ETH and $BTC tend to get most of the attention - this time its a different currency How Messi got paid in Fan Tokens ⬇️
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Put my dog down today. When we got her in 2010 my brother and I had been begging for a dog for over a decade. My dad came home with what looked like an oversized rat. Never knew how much I’d grow to love that rat. Rest easy Arlee.
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This month @fanatics announced that it would acquire sports card and memorabilia company @Topps for $500 million to build it's collectibles business The deal marks yet another millstone for fanatics in its quest to become the everything store for sports Lets dive in
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As a new LP particularly interested in funding science...I feel like it is the golden age to invest in Techbio GPs. The amount of intellectual firepower for this cohort of MD/PHD types is astounding. What's more interesting is that they are some of the main contributors to a
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❄️Cold Take: Peloton is taking an absolute beating in the public markets 🔥Hot Take: In order to regain the fitness throne – they should be acquired by Disney Here's my take...
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@austin_rief Day in the life TikToks
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@AlexHormozi -Ted Bundy
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@david_perell For this generation it’s their onlyfans account. Mark my words.
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@micsolana It was a $144k thank you very much
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Gonna start writing again. Decided to go with @beehiiv . Gonna write about a lot of stuff: Life, biology, markets, addiction, psychology, loss, probably some culture mixed in there... Feels like the right time. Writing a letter to myself this weekend really helped. Check it
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Replacing my entire resume with this image of my Uhaul parallel park job in Fidi today. AMA.
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@businessbarista @Codie_Sanchez Wrong answer. More sticky. Better customer retention ;)
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This started as a letter to my mom. I don't know what it is now. But I don't know if she is ever going to read it Instead, it transformed into an expressive note to myself. All I want to say is that I miss my mom – which is weird to say because she is still alive…and I don't
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Ever wonder what athletes do in their free time? Many of them are using their outsized social presence and distribution to become involved in philanthropic endeavors or business ventures. I spent some time on @LinkedIn to see what these athletes are up to. Check it out below ⬇️
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Crazy stat from @fintwit_news @elonmusk made more in the last 9 months than Warren Buffett has in his entire life
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RedBull earned its first win of the '22 F1 season as Max Verstappen took 1st place in Jeddah. The interesting part? RedBull didn't need a win to benefit financially. They have built the ultimate marketing machine — & owned sports properties lead the way. Here's the breakdown:
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0/ Over the past several months I have worked hard at building out a research center for FOS called @FOSInsights The product is called Insights and we cover all topics capital markets and find unique ways that they tie into sports Here's a list of some of my favorites from 2021
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Apparently @whoop is pretty confident in their ability to ward off would-be copycats Nice little show of humor from CEO @willahmed and the Whoop team on their circuit board for Whoop 4.0
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. @FTX_Official being on every single umpire jersey truly is genius. Market agnostic and just constant. Kudos @SinaNader33 🥂
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Made another media appearance. My parents are so proud.
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What do investment bankers actually do? Full episode up now @goodworkmb :
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