@SEGA
@sonic_hedgehog
#SaveSonicGenerations
To SEGA I hope this finds you well, as a long time dedicated fan of Sonic The Hedgehog, I wanted to express some concerns I have about your recent decisions to make Sonic Generations (2011) a bundle-exclusive on PC and Xbox.
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i dont know if its my favourite but i think this scene captures exactly the spirit of dragon ball and exactly why it is such an important and amazing series to everyone who reads/watches it
i know the gens classic sonic design is controversial but honestly the way he is animated in generations feels so good and i think it does a good job encapsulating that pure classic sonic feel
@DokkanZamasu
i just dont like how most characters in super barely change their outfit, me and my friend were watching the series and just laughing that krillin had the tacos shirt for like half the series and wore nothing else
forces and generations probably have my favourite UIs in the series
forces just feels so clean and abstract in a way that fits with the war aesthetic (too bad the actual game doesnt follow suit but at least the UI team tried)
and generations captures the classic JP box art well
this clip from LS Mark's frontiers video actually does an excellent job summing up what i mean
(and about how i feel on how the fandom treats discourse and criticism in general)
you know something interesting about the frontiers stuff? the double standard of people saying "oh but the game was received well by reviewers and won awards so it must be good!!" but then will shit on reviewers and journalists whenever they say anything bad about sonic
anyway onto more positive things i think its really cool how the black arms logo is kinda now just shadow's logo almost like he has reclaimed that and completely changed its meaning since he has moved on and erased that horrible part of his past
the lack of agency the player has in frontiers when collecting memory tokens is genuinely unreal, most of these "platforming" sequences require little more than holding forward and maybe an occasional button press
geoff keighley when sonic is mentioned "ughh anyways next thing"
geoff keighley when shitty gacha game is mentioned "OH WOW CANT WAIT TO SEE MORE FROM THIS!"
this is one thing i think e3 was better for, since the companies made the announcements you didnt get stuff like this
@PersonthePerso2
i mean the lyrics are literally made to juxtapose throw it all away, his theme is about how nobody will stop him getting his revenge and fulfilling maria's wish and live and learn is the culmination of his arc of letting go of his hate for humanity represented by the final hazard
@SpectralAurora_
England is just one country in the middle and south of the main island, Great Britain is just the main island so Scotland, England and Wales, and the UK is those plus Northern Ireland (mainland Ireland is independent), and then all of them together are the British Isles
IM CONVINCED THIS SECTION LOOKS AMAZING, NO DASH PANELS, RAMPS, SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR PLAYER EXPRESSION
can they stop getting the person playing to play as slow as possible though π
@HamavalThorfinn
dragon ball fans complain when goku "dyes his hair" but then you get subtle changes and they just act like its lazy what do they want??
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Anyways here is my big thread on my complete thoughts on the Sonic Generations (2011) delisting situation:
The Anti-Consumer Consequences of Making Sonic Generations (2011) Bundle-Exclusive
it genuinely baffles me how western sonic fans refuse to believe these games had any story or substance prior to SA1
(i mean its partly poor localisation but like in the modern day there isnt really an excuse)
@pink32s
ive had this issue when sprite animating, its because in sonic advance 3 that is a single image that doesnt move, it moves with the camera and there are trees in the foreground to give the illusion of movement, one mistake thats common is you will see people just copy and paste-
this is the kind of thing that makes me so angry and scared about how nonchalantly people treat transphobia, this is why people say trans rights are human rights because we are literally being killed and on top of that they try to hide who we were in life and erase our identity
"sonic is boring if he doesnt go through internal struggles or a character arc, static characters are boring!"
ah yes because the game where they give sonic an internal struggle and a character arc was so amazing
already seeing people call the SA victim of ava tyson a liar, its so clear these people dont give a flying fuck about victims and just care about hating trans people and how they "knew she was a predator" just because the transphobic stereotype aligned this one time
i saw people talk about this on my tl but i hadnt listened to it because i didnt think itd be THAT bad...
it was in fact that bad, this just feels... disrespectful to the source material and amy and sonic's relationship
people are saying this is nothing like generations' level design, but these 2 sections look exactly like sections from chemical plant and speed highway
all im saying is i think we should wait until we see more than like 10 seconds of footage lol
Yeah idk man Iβve watched the trailer back like 4 times now and the gameplay just does not look good
It literally just looks like Sonic Forces level design and controls
Visuals are stunning though, probably the best the series has ever looked
this is why we dont get cartoony cutscenes in sonic, the fanbase calling amy a psycho when its just something you would see in a cartoon to exaggerate how upset she is (which she rightfully should be she got swept up in a tornado π)
The fact that people use this moment as an argument on how Amy is a βpsychoβ because she got rightfully pissed at Sonic for needlessly risking her life really shows media literacy in this fanbase is at a all time low
dragon ball with rock music will never fail to disgust me i guess is the best word for it lol
no hate to the actual song but one of my favourite aspects of dragon ball's ost is how emotional it is feeling like an orchestral movie score and a fairy tale which elevates every scene
@The14thDemon
people keep saying "but sonic generations didnt do that!" and im just like: what could they have done? no other games existed in the real world that take place after generations π
seeing some people say something like "you better apologise about ian flynn see he can write good!" and like why people in this fandom have the mindset that you have to "apologise" to previous pieces of media for something else being good?
its so weird
everybody talks about ohtani and senoue when talking about sonic music but i want to give spotlight to two underappreciated artists who get overshadowed by those two
kenichi tokoi and fumie kumatani have made some of the most memorable songs and are barely acknowledged
btw people saying "this is how OG Gens works" im very much aware
this is a response because there was a rumour going around they were using score this time around
this didnt just come out of nowhere
you know something interesting about the frontiers stuff? the double standard of people saying "oh but the game was received well by reviewers and won awards so it must be good!!" but then will shit on reviewers and journalists whenever they say anything bad about sonic
inaccuracy
inaccuracy japan
you are aware these games are not documentaries these are fictional products? you know in england there isnt a magic portal that teleports you to world war 2 right??
ava is a reprehensible person and a sexual predator, this should not be used to implicate trans people as a whole because here is an example of a trans person who was a victim of her behaviour
all in all she should be ousted from all online communities and i hope op is okay π
that picture is like a really good example of how 90% of current discourse is in the fandom, someone says they dont like something, swarms of people just post unfunny, unoriginal and uncritical memes and phrases to make them feel wrong or stupid or whatever
@carthusdojo
its funny they cut out the panel of king kai explaining how his planet has similar gravity to planet vegeta which is why goku says that basically saying that he shouldnt have a problem then since he is saiyan born
some sonic fans are genuinely just allergic to basic media analysis its actually kind of concerning
look even slightly closer at anything in sonic and suddenly its "not that deep" or "you're grasping at straws" and so on its genuinely anti-intellectualism at work
also something i love about gens, whenever you do a trick it actually shoots off some of these abstract shapes its such a cool detail i adore it
it just feels so effortlessly sonic
Elec orders his shipβs hatch open and prepares to flee alone. Goku asks if he plans to leave Gas behind, but Elec says Gas is a goner anyway. Or he starts to say that, when suddenly a mysterious beam pierces Monaito, followed by more. Whatβs going on?!
@contxtsonic
it's not even the people who ripped it, im assuming they probably just went to the spriter's resource and slapped it in without thought, it might also explain why the background waterfall isn't animated either since the tsr version is also a still image
this is easily the best sonic final boss
what it lacks in interesting gameplay it makes up for in literally every other department and not a single other sonic game i think has come close to this
i despise this take, shadow's character in heroes, shadow, and 06 did nothing but enrich his character and expanded shadow from being just a vessel of maria/gerald's wishes
SA2 Shadow was one of a kind. Responsible for the most iconic scenes in the series. Great character arc, perfect ending. They told a complete story.
Then they brought him back.
I love Shadow even now. Iβm so happy heβs here. But itβs just never quite been the same.
Every time myself and Lucas talk about how stupid it is that nobody in Star Wars realises that they can just, turn their swords off, we always get paragraph long messages explaining why it actually totally makes sense and all I can ever think of is this specific shot.
its insane how sonic fans dont get this, its literally the plot of sonic unleashed, and it doesnt matter, HIS THEME SONG, in literally the first verse mentions sonic's heart of gold and he wont give in
if you dont like that or think its boring then you just dont like sonic
why are sonic fans obsessed with sonic being corrupted and turning evil to overcome it?? like that just does not make sense for sonic
the whole point of those types of stories is it is a manifestation of some inner turmoil the character must overcome: sonic doesnt have that
@PersonthePerso2
its crazy because despite sonic battle having a poorly written amy, her mentioning the tarot cards is probably handled the most naturally by just being an off hand comment
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