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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

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I am no saint, but apparently I have been canonized. "Legendary Creature - Fox Rogue" Good gracious. I don't know what to think, but that's pretty cool.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

5 months

@echocanidae Because military speak is cool, and superheroes are cool, therefore naturally superheroes know military speak. Actually, I actually just assumed she learned it in the 'glory days' back when she was helping the government save the world daily.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

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You WILL become a strong, attractive man. You WILL find a committed woman. You WILL get married. You WILL stay married. You WILL lead a family. You WILL find a way to provide for them. Don't let losers tell you what is impossible. And stop giving yourself excuses to give up

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

3 months

"Children are too expensive to have today." My brother in Christ, my grandfather was 1 of 14 raised by an alcoholic single-earner during the Great Depression. Yes, some things do cost more, but we are also totally out-of-touch with what we actually need.

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My dad had it rough. A factory left down and that was it. Most people claiming it’s never been worse grew up in nice suburbs and don’t realize that that wasn’t the story for most of us.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

10 months

It has been a long, hard year since someone else came into my marriage bed and took what I loved most from me. And I forgive you, all three of you, even though you don't ask for it. I hope you will come back to church again someday. Until then, this is my last goodbye, hon.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

I am become meme, the bringer of eternal cringe. I'm really enjoying these memes, guys. Neckbeard Foxglove looks so sweet and nice. In all seriousness, thanks for helping find some good humor in the midst of a devastating situation. You gave me a smile in the midst of my loss.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

9 months

Thanksgiving at my place this year. Everyone is invited!

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

6 months

@angel_sharkie @Dragon_Samurai0 Wearing a black dress doesn't make you a girl either. That left one is sus.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

4 months

@savannahvicario I'm very confused. The women I meet do not seem to want these things. I am starting to suspect there is a difference between what women say or even think they want and what they actually desire and chase after.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

3 months

@Sargon_of_Akkad Maybe Twitter has removed some of the D-U-D-E-S I-N O-H-I-O

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

Please pray for me, my wife, and my daughter. I need God's strength, I can't do this alone.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

Double take. Triple take. Eye bleach. Nothing will ever exceed furries for the ability to be both the weirdest AND most dramatic thing in any room. Furry drama is freaking wild! And with pictures! Move over, Tiger King, we've got the makings of a doozy of a reality show here!

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

3 months

You are a daughter of God. That makes you a princess. It's my most treasured privilege to remind you of that fact and treat you as such, day after day forever.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

6 months

@ChristusVi5928 They think it's a good argument because you don't answer the question.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 months

@GRomePow This makes me sad. Men don't cry about it on TikTok but there will probably be as many or even more of them, too.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

11 months

For your meming enjoyment...

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

4 months

@wayotworld Why are so many people personally offended by a joke at the expense of racists or racial purists?

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

The Narcissist's Prayer: 1. It didn't happen. 2. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. 3. And if it was, that's not a big deal. 4. And if it is, that's not my fault. 5. And if it was, I didn't mean it. 6. And if I did, you deserved it.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

The perfect life is out there. Go get it!

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

Good parents are going extinct. Please help save this critical endangered species.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

3 months

@tweetjjtweet Most male child roles are played by women. Unless there is more to it, this is just part of acting. Plz don't conflate it with drag or transgenderism.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

@FreeFurAllCon Eww. If you and your boyfriend are gonna creme pie again, keep that in the bedroom. And preferably not OUR bedroom this time.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

There may be some unavoidable earthly consequences, but it is NEVER too late to turn back! Love does not give up.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

10 months

I am become Meme, bringer of eternal cringe.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

Let's get Foxglove cancelled today! OPINION: Kids aren't nearly as expensive as people say. And each one is cheaper than the last. The biggest reason nobody is financially "ready" to have children, is it requires spending money on SOMEONE ELSE, and nobody is ever ready for that!

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

6 months

You can't tell me that Rule 34 doesn't apply to political bullshit just as much as porn.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

No-fault divorce needs to be abolished. It should not be legal to marry a guy, trade him in for a newer model and take half his stuff with you. That is abuse The emotional ruin of marital betrayal is already devastating. We must not also allow financial ruin for abandoned spouses

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

According to all known Twitter consensus, it should be scientifically and mathematically impossible for someone at #FreeFurAll to have fun. The people at #FreeFurAll22 of course have fun anyway, because they don't care what Twitter thinks is impossible.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

Friendly reminder that if I catch ANY of my followers attending a convention I don't like... I will wish you a good time and hope you still come to the ones I will be at too.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

Honest question: why is it that when a husband cheats, he is a selfish pig and ought to go back and care for his wife... But when a wife cheats, it's her personal choice and her husband needs to get over it and move on and wanting his own wife back makes him a creep?

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

The amount of cruelty a single person is capable of is nearly limitless. It's shocking. I suppose I am glad that I am the target instead of someone else. I'd rather endure it myself than give it to someone else who might succumb to it. Our daughter is still watching.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

3 months

This is pornography. It's a male fantasy creating unrealistic expectations of women.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

I need prayer. I'm feeling extra lonely today. I hate being alone. I know I must be content with God, but I'm such a family man, it hurts. I have so much love and affection and the person I used to lavish in it daily is gone. So it has nowhere to go. It feels so heavy on me.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

8 months

My name is Foxglove. Nice to meet you!

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

1/ One of the best ways to identify a groomer is that they will cut their victims off from everyone else who loves and cares about them. They first find someone with a need (love, drugs, sex, validation) and meet that need. Then they isolate the victim to make them dependent.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

Awww. That's adorable.

Groveclearer

@Groveclearer

1 year

@FoxgloveActual Glad you're taking all this in stride Keep the faith, brother

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

It sounds like my divorce is finally final. If anyone is going to try to embarrass me, now is probably the time. The truth is embarrassing. But I'm not afraid of it, because I learned from my mistake, didn't make excuses for it, fixed it, didn't repeat it, and was forgiven.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

"Goodnight Daddy" One of the things I've always wanted to hear from my baby girls and boys. I love my adopted daughter and I love my bio children too, even though they aren't born yet and I probably haven't even met their mother. I can't wait to have a beautiful family!

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 months

@Arzykr @pipdidart This is not a post made by a mentally healthy person.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

4 months

@padigoodspeed @savannahvicario Well then this list is useless. What makes a man that person? That's what everyone is wanting to know.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

Thank you all for the care and support you have each shown me. It may not feel like much, but it has helped me get through the darkest time of my life. I'm still going through it, and I appreciate each and every one of you as much as ever! Thank you from me and my daughter.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

Let's face it, lads. There are zero real women on the Internet, and all of them are taken.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

"Excuse me sir, I didn't attend this event, but please consider my complaints about it regardless."

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

This has been the worst year of my life. No fresh start either, this hell will continue into the new year. But at least despite the tragedy, it was still a good year for our girl. In spite of it all, I've still managed to provide her more love and stability than she has had...

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

I'm so tired, completely emotionally exhausted. I can't cry anymore, even when recounting our tragedy. It isn't because I'm not sad anymore not at all, I'm just too exhausted to be sad. I have no more tears left in me, I am dried up and empty. I feel like collapsing.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

3 months

@its_junipurr I care about people's mental health too much to affirm someone's psychosis. I want people to get healed, not make them worse.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

Why do furries feel like they have to marry someone "in the fandom"? It's not a religion, it's just some weird hobby. Honestly, them not being may even be better. Besides, you would be lucky to find a straight, ADULT woman at all, let alone in the fandom. Don't limit yourself.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

Found a cool costume and asked for a photo

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

3 months

"Men are easy. Just be nice to them." And yes, do give this nice lady a follow if you haven't yet.

【⭑𝚂𝚝𝚊𝚛𝚛𝚝𝚘𝚘𝚗⭑】

@StarrtoonArt

3 months

BRUH I WENT TO SLEEP AT 800 FOLLOWERS AND WOKE UP TO 1.1K LIKE WHAT?

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

10 months

This is the last time I will bring it up like this. Thank you, every single one of you, who helped me through it. I promised God I would wait one year, and I kept it. That door is closed behind me, and I am looking forwards to a brighter future with a family I can love forever.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

#FreeFurAll #FreeFurAll22 #Uncancelable Who else was there? I had a great time! And the ball pit didn't even deflate!

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

19 days

Chipi chipi, chapa chapa, Dubi dubi, daba daba, Magico mi dubi dubi Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom!

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

Could you spare a prayer this weekend? I'm not feeling great. Lots of stressful and hurtful things, and advancing into a new stage of grief, which is sending me on a different emotional roller coaster than before. I'm feeling so conflicted, and weak.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

10 months

Hey artists! Who is open for commissions? I have a mighty need for something romantic!

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

It's called a "father figure". These used to be normal and everyone knew them.

BlackGeekyGirl (DM FOR COMMISSION)

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1 year

What should this archetype be called?

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

I love my family, no matter what. My wish is not to serve justice, my wish is to serve grace. Forgiveness is the answer, love never fails.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

4 months

Wife who only needs my relentless doting to feel like a queen.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

3 months

Twitter is the only place I can have a long discussion of opposing political philosophy with an atheistic stranger but also get blocked by someone I've known for a year who is also a Christian and I share 50 moots with because I say I think hamsters don't make good house pets.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

I think I've figured it out. The reason I don't fit in on Twitter. Everyone here tries to control each in other using FEAR. Whereas I try to influence people through RESPECT. Both tools can be used for controll, but they work very, very differently.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

Heh heh. I've been trying to forget life passing me by, but a few of my best friends remembered. You guys are so sweet, you know that? I'm so blessed to have so many good, genuine people in my life.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

5 months

This is why furries never get anywhere and their greatest accomplishments are annual get-togethers centered around pornography and hotel hook-ups. They love to hate things more than they love to love things. Mutual hate may unite people, but you can't build something on hate.

Eraphtas

@EjBeta

5 months

Got a shower and the movie tickets, wish me luck tonight!

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

I've wanted to be a dad since I was still in high school. My love of kids is usually one of the first things people know about me. Some of my best memories were running summer camps and helping 200 kiddos have fun. It's funny to look back and see that I've grown but never changed

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

11 months

@Sargon_of_Akkad Lol. Every single time. "I am entitled to do what I want because it's my life! Also, why won't anyone marry me?"

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

Christ has already given us unconditional love and forgiveness. If we accept it, with His power in us, we can show that same unconditional love and forgiveness to others. This is what heals even the greatest rifts. This is the answer. Forgiveness heals.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

@atebitvix I am become meme, the bringer of eternal cringe.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

7 months

Please pray for me. I'm feeling very hurt and betrayed. It makes me angry, and that's when I usually make mistakes I regret.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

5 months

1/ I'm not feeling great today. Tomorrow should be better. I'm really discouraged with how much Christians OVER-value virginity and are dead set on a virgin spouse. Chastity is important, but I wish people understood being a virgin doesn't mean you're not a shit spouse.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

I wish I had friends I could babysit for. When did people stop getting married and having children? It's getting very lonely. I've only even been to a few weddings in the past decade. It's depressing.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

Oh, and never forget- Jasonafex groomed himself a young and impressionable girl, talking his way into her pants in her husband's home. He's the real villain here. Don't go after his his victim. That's exactly what he wants in order to keep her isolated.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

I could use some prayers today. Or hugs. I'm doing the job of 2 all by myself on top of a bunch of other messes. I'm getting calls during the day about matters that need handled, and I can't do this, because I still have a day job too. I need a break. I need help. I hate alone.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

#FreeFurAll

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

Well, I'm officially back on the market. Not that I'm expecting to find dates on social media, but might as well make it known. I hope to make new friends, and hopefully one Christian, kid-loving, affectionate, mature, female best friend for life.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

Sometimes I wonder if there's a bunch of things people surprisingly don't know about me yet. I'm one of the cofounders of AWOO/Free Fur All I'm married and have a daughter. But my wife left us for someone else. I "associate" with literally anyone. I talk to people you don't like.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

#FreeFurAll was a success. And it will be back, again and again and again! It will run as long as its attendees want it to! America's Anthro Convention is #Uncancelable Thank you to all who made it happen!

Free Fur All

@FreeFurAllCon

2 years

WE DID IT ... - Number of Attendees: 207 - Money Raised for Charity: $8,000 - People from over 40 Different States AND WE'RE COMING BACK!!! Guests of Honor: @KabsCornerArts and @JasonafexFA Glenpool Conference Center July 28-30th, 2023 #FreeFurAll22

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

Please keep praying for my family. Me and my loved ones are still in crisis. I've recovered a lot, but 3 months I to this hell I can't shake all the trauma. I'm starting to worry if I never will. I'm physically well again and stopped losing weight...

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

1/ Planned or unplanned, every child is precious. Even our "happily little accidents!" Each and every one deserves a family to love and raise and train them. Unfortunately, we have a growing epidemic of little ones without. These are the ones who most often have already endured..

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

22 days

I may be cringe, but I hope I am at least some of the most wholesome cringe on your timeline today.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

I had a lot stolen from me. What I want back second most is the last ten years of my life that are down the drain. My entire twenties, the best years of my life, gone. Wasted. Pearls before swine.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

6 months

Men, what's stopping you from dressing like this?

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@FoxgloveActual

2 years

I forgive @/jasonafexfa and @/kabscornerarts and the remaining board of @/AWOOAssocistion for what they did to my family! And I want you all to forgive them as well! Forgive, not excuse. Forgiveness is not the same as permissiveness nor refusing to protect yourself from harm.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

11 months

@SketchyMouse @EtheriumApex This is so corny, but it's so wholesome I don't care. I love it.

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@FoxgloveActual

1 year

This has been a great week. Thanks everyone! It has been so nice to meet so many new people. I'm starting to feel a lot more like my old self again! Longing for love and family, for holding loved ones and being romantic. I got so much needed closure this week.

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@FoxgloveActual

18 days

Oh, my poor country. God, please help us and give our men courage.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

4 months

Time to bat for another team. Lads, I'm entering your market. I don't understand why anyone likes women and never have, and Ive never really wanted kids anyways. I already have a dishwasher and plenty of things to waste money on, so who needs a woman? Men are so much more dreamy!

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

I'm visiting a new church today. The pastor is great and his teachings are great... But then I saw they use Comic Sans on the slides. This place is surely doomed to hell.

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@FoxgloveActual

4 months

Wife who only needs my relentless doting to be the happiest girl in the world. ...do they still make those?

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

3 months

Okay, hear me out- this might actually be worth watching.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

5 months

Girls are odd. That's why they can't even.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

4 months

@padigoodspeed @savannahvicario I disagree. It's not a hard science, but telling young people that they need to just wish upon a star is not good advice. There are real factors, some of which we have control of, and we should seek to learn them rather than pretend we're totally at the mercy of the universe.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

I am consistently encouraged by you youths out there, the ones just coming of age, from 18-22 or so. I see so muchmore character and resilience in you. I think you will be the ones to finally surpass those before you. I'm so excited for your futures!

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

3 months

Which is my best profile icon, number one, two, three, or four? Bonus points if you can guess which art is my own.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

If you want to determine which circles are abusive and controlling and which ones are open and healthy, ask yourself which groups will treat you badly for being friends with someone they don't like, or demand you don't go to events they don't like. Those are the ones.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

10 months

Testing out Paint Tool SAI 2. Lookit that handsome devil. It's the irresistible sexy eyebrows that does it.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

4 months

@TheMuppetPastor I more often see males holding onto women who don't treat them like a priority. Women get the attention and simpage and are usually the ones who actually have a 3rd or 4th option. But desperate males hold onto them because better to be a 4th option than none. Just my observation.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 year

I consistently observe that those who actively avoid human contact or voice chat in favor of texting are the most depressed and/or angry people. They feel like everyone else is a jerk or doesn't like them, when in truth people are almost always nicer when you just talk to them.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

I think I'm the most cancelled person in furry circles, despite not being a furry. I'm not wanted at any of the mainstream events, and I am banned from the AwooAssociation, which was supposed to be against Cancel Culture.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

1 month

@TheMuppetPastor "My religion isn't a religion, and your religion is hate-speech."

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

3 months

@tweetjjtweet Yeah, I was trying to agree. That was a message for everyone else. Sorry for not being specific.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

Guys, men, I'm flattered. I know someone foolishly out a hot item back on the market recently, but please let the ladies have a go first. I appreciate your many offers, and they have been a great confidence boost. But I regret to inform you all that I am still allegedly straight.

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Father Foxglove, Patriarch of the Church of Dadism

@FoxgloveActual

2 years

Every lie told is a debt to reality. Sooner or later, the bill always comes due.

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