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Gilman Grundy

@FOARP

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Interested in: IP, China, Law, Politics, Liverpool FC. My views are my own.

All points east (now in UK)
Joined February 2009
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8 months
Willy Wonka’s corporate espionage problems could have been avoided by deploying an effective intellectual property registration and enforcement strategy, in this article I will…
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@BenRamanauskas I thought I was cool - I assumed it was intentional as a way of portraying the USSR as a country that spoke Russian in different accents, but even if it wasn’t then it was still cool because they weren’t putting on Russian accents.
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@agraybee Basically because the way we teach about protests is this:
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@fesshole If a PC has a switch on it that will make it explode, then the main fault for that is not on some pimply 15-year-old kid on work-experience. But yeah, very much doubt this happened.
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@RorateCaeli @UN @UN_Women Plus "Family name" is NOT the same thing as "maiden name". If you ask anyone "what is your family name?" the answer you will get is their present surname, not their surname prior to being married.
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@BeijingPalmer THIS. If you're advocating that Ukraine not be in NATO, you're advocating that Ukraine provides its own nuclear deterrent.
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@KareemRifai It's called Bergen-Belsen, Dachau, and Buchenwald being liberated by US/British/Canadian troops.
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@markmackinnon ...Georgia started the war in Ossetia, there was no Russian interference in the 2004 Ukraine election, Russia did not poison Viktor Yushchenko, the Kursk was sunk by NATO, the Chechens bombed the blocks of flats in Buynaksk, Moscow, and Volgodonsk...
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"We survived the Blitz" - say people who have never even heard the explosion of a single bomb.
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Great piece on how only a cosseted people who do not know the fragility of civilisation take leaps into the dark
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@zjbaadn @christopherhope One the royal family doesn't even want, so they had to make up some bollocks about it being a "national flagship", which is meaningless and not a thing.
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@jwhandley17 Seconds until an American person pipes in with "wait until they try Mexican food, it will blow their minds..." as if hot/spicy food were some totally unknown feature of the average British high-street.
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@BeijingPalmer @stinson Poroshenko, the chocolate billionaire ex-president, leading a territorial battalion with a hand-full of NLAWs against a blitzkrieg. Klitschko, the multi-millionaire world champion and sometimes blow-hard, donning camouflage to defend the city of which he is mayor.
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@Elmcro @tomhfh Plus so many of these "We just didn't go to the pub for a year" takes are really, really enraging when all of us have literally not been going to the pub for the past year, and oddly enough this hasn't made much of a dent in getting a deposit together.
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@thomopolis @ChairmanMoet @thetomzone "You know, the logistics problems would have been covered in the further deep-dive we proposed on page 1283 of our report but you decided not to spend the extra $20 million for that so really this is your fault"
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@torriangray @DrewPavlou Great joke, ridiculous nit-pick: I think Paddington would have been Shining Path, not right-wing death squad.
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@ChrisO_wiki Huh, why not simply recruit in graveyards and cut out the middle-man?
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@NOELreports Glad to see Scranton stepping up. Hope the UK and other NATO powers are following suit.
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@michaelnute @TrentTelenko @oryxspioenkop They COULD have the money for the army they have, if 1) it wasn’t frittered away through corruption, and 2) they didn’t spend so much cash on maintaining the illusion of still being a naval/air/space/nuclear power.
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@jayforeman Particular kind of middle-class-ish population in all these places.
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@Lifeinvestmoney @AlienGnosis *Drops a few million on an advertising agency* What about “Hotl”?
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@secretsqrl123 My concern is this - Russia suddenly finds ammunition from "somewhere" and we then have to spend months/years proving what everyone will know instantly: that it is the Chinese supplying it.
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@SimpGanassi Ran the numbers on this and in the 1930's this is the kind of house a teacher would have been able to afford with a deposit of ~6 months salary (av. teacher's salary at grant-aided school in 1930 was £373, price of house ~£800, and a ~£600 mortgage could be had for ~£4/month)
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@IanDunt It really astounds me that over ~30 from the 1950's years we electrified and the country became dotted with massive electricity pylons and that is OK, but windfarms, which are much fewer in number, are so controversial.
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I used to pooh-pooh the concept of cultural genocide. It seemed like hyperbole to me, and invoking murder seemed over the top. This is cultural genocide. This is the erasing of a people’s history and culture, as though it (and they) never existed.
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Last year, the Chinese government destroyed the central Uyghur graveyard and sacred shrine in Khotan. We can now see part of what they have put in its place: a parking lot.
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@Otto_English One is an ex-drug addict dead-beat-dad whose idea of a hard day is getting out of bed before 11am, the other is an actual combat veteran. Yeah, not getting quite why this is front-page-material.
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@Osinttechnical Not the US - NATO (so most likely Bulgaria, Slovakia, or Greece since they actually have S-300s). Probably it needed US sign-off like the Mig 29 deal, and maybe the US gave logistical support in getting them to Ukraine, but these aren't US weapons.
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@andrew_wauchope @asabenn @adamboultonSKY It's Adam Bolton's job to call people out when they say things that demonstrably aren't true. It's Bernard Jenkin's job to make informed decisions. One did their job, the other did not.
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@BeijingPalmer I think I’m not digitally illiterate. I literally spent an hour+ yesterday trying to cast photos from my iPhone to my Chromecast via my PC yesterday and the barriers to doing it were entirely down to the companies involved preferring you to stay within their walled gardens.
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@SkyKangz @RobertMackey @SizeMichael @mr_gh0stly Just as the most basic error contained in your litany of errors: the BBC was not founded during World War Two.
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@BeijingPalmer Living in Japan and working in a law firm there, the absolute antipathy of office culture there towards family life was very obvious. You were expected to work in a way that would mean basically not seeing your family from Monday to Saturday and being exhausted all the time.
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This one ("there are no beggars in China!") occasionally crops up and it's absolute nonsense. What they do in cities like Beijing is they periodically round up the homeless/mentally ill & dump them out of town. There was one living on the street right outside my door in Longhua.
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“"You don't see beggars in China asking for money … [you] see that in every major city in the United States [and] it's supposed to be the number one economy in the world.” Sogavare obviously didn’t travel well enough in PRC, beyond Beijing. 🙃
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@ItsBorys I mean a movie of this would be interesting but not in the way these Vatniks intend. Sergei: “so this is all just an exercise, right?” Vladimir: *stares intensely out of the window of the chopper at the Ukrainian tracer-fire rising to meet them*
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@DrewPavlou @torriangray He picked up his marmalade addiction - his one flaw - whilst campaigning amongst the verdant orange fields of the Ayacucho highlands.
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As @Otto_English suspected, JRM simply memorised a dictionary of quotations. Not really a classicist.
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Karen, Not a Karen 🇺🇦 #GTTO 🇬🇧 🇪🇺 🐝
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Jacob Rees-Mogg agrees to be interviewed on LBC about the benefits of learning Latin at school. Fails to understand some simple Latin phrases presented to him (except for the Eton moto). Admits his knowledge of Latin is limit to the Dictionary of Quotations🤦‍♀️
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@Gerashchenko_en So (assuming this is even physically possible) cause a global catastrophe that would basically be “nuclear winter but a bit less radioactive”? Genius idea…
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@IanDunt And the 27 injured police officer including one with a punctured lung? Nah, violence is violence and I despise the people who attacked police last week with the same intensity that I despise these people.
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@Osinttechnical “BuT NaTo wEaPoNs-sYsTeMs aRe tOo aDvAnCeD, dIfFeRrEnT aNd CoMpLeX fOr UkRaInE tO oPeRaTe!!!!1111oneoneone” - Smart people in Washington and Berlin, apparently.
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@AntonJaegermm @yuanyi_z Atta’s attack began a chain of events that would end up flattening Aleppo.
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The same Green movement orgs that are so loud on things that basically aren’t Green issues (esp. Israel-Palestine and various other zeitgeisty arguments) have been painfully silent on Ukraine, especially lately. Just not a convenient issue for them, obviously.
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A pretty damning indictment of the bulk of the established environmental NGOs. One can only suspect that Russia is the "wrong" bad guy for them, leading to a pathetic and immoral silence.
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@CoachD_Speaks I mean, it’s minor amongst the rest of the craze, but the real US pat. no. 606060 is an 1898 patent for a clothes dryer.
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@SevaUT @BeijingPalmer Also the Soviets literally jammed all of those.
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@Otto_English Weird, isn’t it, that the only countries Russia invades are those that AREN’T in NATO? It’s almost like their objection to Ukraine joining NATO is just that it would make it harder for Russia to conquer and control them.
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@YuliaTymosha The crazy thing is either this 2013 show or another around the same time which Zelensky was in was introduced by Solovyov who totally loved his act.
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@twlldun I'm recalling that 7% of the adult population surveyed by YouGov claim not to know who Tony Blair is. The basic fact is that whenever any change is brought in, there will be people who miss it out of sheer obliviousness. This is not a grounds for compensation, just empathy.
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So often I see people say that Xi/Putin wouldn't do X because "They're too smart for that, not like [insert Western pol here]". How do you know they're smart? Could it just be that they have an entire state media apparatus keyed to make them look that way?
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I see the same approach to analyzing Xi Jinping. There is an assumption he is rational, this is why he wouldn't do X or Y. But what if hubris, being surrounded by yes men, and power make men nuts? Not enough credence is given to this possibility in foreign policy.
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@Jbrady2852 @phildstewart I’ sure they can, but Lukashenko may not wish to properly identify who attacked Belarus.
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@BeijingPalmer See also “abolish the police”, “abolish the prisons”, “abolish schools”,“decolonise X”, etc.
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@MiriamLevin1 This process does not even actually do anything. It is a process for having processes. In an era when so many projects are hampered by red tape, this is a proposal to heap even more red-tape on top of them to the point of complete inaction.
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@Artemis_201 @mrstrangefact I assume the thing was up for a really short time before they realise what a bad idea it was to invite people to hit themselves against bullet-proof glass.
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@SamHooper Sorry, completely untrue: - Only 2 senators, so same influence in the senate as Wyoming (compare with QMV) - Control over all defence/foreign policy from federal government - Pretty sure there would be some commerce-clause based rulings about NHS etc. coming down from USSC.
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@gabyhinsliff I knew it was changing and hadn’t even sat my GCSEs in 1995. I know what my retirement age is (and am also very aware that it may change). This is a change in benefits by law. Since when did a benefits-cut entitle the recipient to more cash because they didn’t know about it?
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@FellowMariner @goofxist Seeing ideologies that literally give you massive malluses in-game and adopting them as your core beliefs *Chef’s Kiss*
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For a student of Chinese history it is difficult not to draw parallels between the present war between Russia and Ukraine and the Japanese invasion of China. Firstly, like in Donbas and Crimea, Japan attempted "hybrid", "ambiguous", "grey zone" warfare in Manchuria in 1931. 1/
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@McFaul @whatsinitforme Basically yes, and not even just "some kooky Europeans and Americans", but prominent historians and politicians. E.g., Hugh Seton-Watson calling Poland a “tool of German imperialism”. I think you can reasonably argue that seizing Zaolzie was a mistake without going there.
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@LolaPictures @Froakiebloke @WONDERHOIZ Me too. Ain’t it great when life surprises?
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@IRHotTakes Binks can occasionally emerge to give interviews which seem conciliatory but where he actually doesn’t admit doing anything wrong. He also does middling-good art.
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@CalibreObscura I always skip/scroll away from any of this content. I think the psychiatrists have it right when they say you have a finite amount of tolerance for this stuff before it causes harm. I don't *NEED* to see this stuff (I already think that terrorism is bad), so I don't watch it.
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It's amazing how not true this actually is. Total NATO aid to Ukraine is circa ~US$100bn, of which only half was military aid. Total military aid was therefore only ~5% of NATO's total military expenditure of ~$1 trillion, and total support for Ukraine was only 0.5% of NATO GDP
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Almost all NATO's potential is being used against Russia - Putin
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@jayforeman Impossible to fully categorise, but I'm thinking of my Lib-Dem-voting retired relative who lives in Cornwall and has their own art-studio attached to their cottage.
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@NOELreports The VDV advance on Irpin? The whole battle of Kyiv was amazing. Overwhelmingly decided by Ukrainian will to resist, poor Russian morale and logistics. And Ukrainian artillery.
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@Albert_Steptoe @dannywallace So, your life was crap and that’s the reason we should have to put up with the same? Nah mate, doesn’t work like that. My work gets done. My boss is happy. I see more of my wife and kids and don’t waste time and money commuting. Why would I change now?
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Can anyone explain to me why, 30 years on from the collapse of Somalia, we are still withholding recognition from Somaliland? Somaliland has now been de-facto independent for nearly as long as it was part of Somalia.
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@north0fnorth Them: “my wife moved out to live near that bay with the wild-life refuge” Me: “Jamaica?” Them: “Nah, it was voluntary”
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@SwannMarcus89 This is still wrong. There are no campus police forces in the UK. “Constable” is just a term for police officer. The US is weird in having dedicated police forces for universities that are inevitably heavily under the influence of University authorities.
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@colinfry666 @fesshole The railway will get notified when you do though, and will be given an opportunity to contest the adverse possession. Most likely they'd then comes and evict you. Rules changed in 2002 to make it way harder to do:
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Like, I spent Friday last week looking at the changes to UK patent law that joining CPTPP necessitates. Just what do people think those legal changes resulting from us signing a trade agreement are if not a reduction in sovereignty?
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The beliefs that only the EU regulates and everyone else in the world just worries about tariffs are foundational to many Brexiteers, followed to a worrying degree by Ministers, and utterly utterly wrong.
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@poliitikasse @CITeam_en No I'm sure they have plenty of rounds of 100mm ammo produced in the 1950's and 60's sitting around in poorly-maintained depots in Siberia that are going to work great when someone tries to fire them 60+ years after they were made!
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@ijuanayala @16hundoo @DEMONSTARLONE @comicaccuracy The budget for Terminator was $6.4m, or ~$20m in today’s money. Aliens in 1986 had a budget of $18.5m, or ~$55m in 2024 money. The Matrix - surely a CGI spectacular - had a budget of $63m in 1999, or ~$120m in today’s money. $140m is way too much for what this is.
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@JackTindale “Yeah, but this is in Spain so it’s awesome. Building ours might require demolishing a curry house near Euston Station, which is Bad(TM)”
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@shistow @Otto_English It's the fact that you know that Francois is dumb, and Hannan isn't , leaving self-deception, negligence, or malice as the only explanations for his positions.
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The behaviour of US border officers really is out of control - a Korean woman I know was repeatedly asked "who's your pimp?" by a border officer at LAX. They do this knowing they can ban anyone they like from the country on a whim. This isn't just a Trump-era thing either.
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My nephew was planning on attending U Colorado. Last week, as he flew to Houston, the immigration official took his passport and banned him from entering for 5 years. Reason: none. Why? Because he could. He’s now enrolling in Canada. That’s the USA foreigners get to experience.
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@theobr0min @minimeadow @AlecStapp "how do we guarantee enough social housing?" Build more houses. "what kind of infrastructure do we invest in to make particular areas more attractive?" Houses. "how do we prevent vacancies/short term rentals?" By building more houses.
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@theobr0min @minimeadow @AlecStapp And when you're done doing all that, notice how you still haven't done anything to fix the problem. The housing shortage is in this country. Building more houses in this country will fix the housing shortage. The answer to "where should we build them?" is "where the shortage is"
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@ThreshedThought Worst day of the Falklands war for Argentina was 12 aircraft lost in combat on 21 May 1982? Looks like that will be equalled today. This is not the performance of a victorious air force.
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@krishgm The banter outcome is Farage standing in Clacton lets the Labour candidate in through the middle.
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@martinkoder @iainmartin1 MPs are supposed to take their holidays when parliament is in recess. Not the behaviour of someone who seeks to lead this country.
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@ChrisDYork "Also if people do good things for reasons I don't entirely agree with then they should not do them and instead let bad things happen. I am very smart" - yeah listening to this further it doesn't get any better.
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Guy in Malaysia has strong opinions about how my country (the United Kingdom) should be managed. A South African-born American agrees. Both would probably say they favour keeping out of other people’s business, particularly those of nuclear-armed states.
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@jonlis1 @jameschappers I quit the party after the October conference speech. A lot of younger non-Europhobes felt same way. Don't love EU but this is suicide.
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@ntrickett16 He’s interesting but I never more than 20-30% buy what he’s saying. It’s “guy in a bar talking”-level stuff. The latest one about Russia breaking up: yeah, I don’t think so.
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@agraybee Eh? Taking 1945 as the start-date is odd. There’s other dates that are way more plausible (most notably 1898).
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@michaeldweiss @nastasiaKlimash Russia should just accept that it isn't going to get (and probably doesn't even want?) all of Belgorod back. In a perfect world compromises like this wouldn't be necessary, but sacrifices must be made for peace...
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@GavinAyling @ejwwest @DanielJHannan Why do we *have* to do anything like this? We could stay in the customs union/SM and avoid this nonsense. Nothing requires this.
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@SwannMarcus89 There are not, in fact, campus police in the UK. The police force for my university (Sussex) was the local constabulary. When they wanted to evict occupying students, they had to first get an injunction before getting the bailiffs in.
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@Gerashchenko_en As always according to Putin's lackeys, weapons deliveries to Ukraine are both massively escalatory and also won't make any difference.
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I know a bunch of people who pre-2019 were baked-in expats and/or True Hong Kongers who have left Hong Kong and just aren’t ever going back. The government crackdown and COVID just broke a lot of people’s trust in their having a future living in Hong Kong.
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Remain has now led in nearly every poll for three years. Yet we’re now out and likely headed for a version of Brexit that would have been loudly denounced as a “Remain smear” back in 2016.
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@EmmaSzewczak One of the things that I liked about our neighbourhood here in rural Hampshire when I came to see the house before buying it was there were kids playing on the street here. My kids now play there.
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@waitmanb @Tulletilsynet It LOOKED like the winning version of this meme, then it went too far and ended up stranded, force to retreat through a cold, humourless wasteland...
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Every nationalist who ever existed, ever: “My nationalism isn’t like those other nationalisms, it’s CIVIC and OPEN, and my centuries-old grievances are REAL”.
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@lijukic @yuanyi_z Classic Wikipedia over-zealousness/completionism. Caused a massive headache when people started trying to add all sorts of places as “successor states” of the USSR.
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@GarySpedding @amolrajanBBC @BBCRadio4 I assume you also think we should never play any other historical speech on air? Enoch Powell was a racist. This speech was horrifically racist (not least as it features a story about a woman that Powell almost certainly made up). Study of past racism helps combat present racism
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@Osinttechnical @oryxspioenkop So, ~125 BTGs, each with ~10 tanks and ~30 APCs, means ~5000 armoured vehicles. Even just relying on photographed/videoed sources they’ve lost about 6% of there armoured strength in a week just to capture a single medium-sized city. Assume the total is probably more like ~10%.
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@duns_sc0tus “The Dark Ages” are a misnomer because of (something that misses the whole point of why they were called the Dark Ages)
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@andersostlund @SteveDjOfficial I think we can stay that if that story were true more would have emerged by now, so it likely isn't.
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Gilman Grundy
2 years
The annoying thing for me is that the response of many of the more reasonable Brexiteers on here is “but it would work if we did *version of Brexit that we are not doing and which they did not, in fact, vote for per se*”. That vote you cast on 23 June 2016 was for *THIS* Brexit.
@Otto_English
Otto English
2 years
Brexit hasn't failed because it's a "Remainers Brexit". It's failed because in every way shape and form it was always a fundamentally stupid idea. The economic equivalent of juggling live hand grenades while skating on petrol.
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Gilman Grundy
5 years
@Shepherd440 @_PeteRobertson @MarinaHyde Mostly because no-one appears to have had the guts to correct De Niro's pronunciation of "Hereford".
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Gilman Grundy
2 years
@Noahpinion Jenny, sitting in her own McDonalds franchise that she owns, usefully employing dozens of people, sipping a vanilla milkshake: "Tastes like ... victory"
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Gilman Grundy
2 years
@KuldkeppMart @EHunterChristie And Russia has used nearly every single conventional weapon-system it possesses from day-one, including heavy-bombers, heavy artillery, cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, cluster bombs, heavy armour (etc.). Nothing we could give them short of nukes would be escalatory.
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