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4 years

Assalāmu ʾalaikum warahmatullāhi wabarakātuh! Herebelow, you will find a list of threads (regularly updated) exposing fundamental doctrinal errors in the Wahhabi/Salafi Cult, which now plagues the internet. For those with open hearts, I hope this helps you find your way.

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@ClassicalMuslim

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HOW IBN ABDUL WAHHAB CHANGED THE SHAHADA [THREAD] [1-8] ilāh & rabb are inseparable [9-14] • MIAW redefined ilāh • used this to redefine the shahada • made takfir on anyone who disagreed [15-19] contradicted the Salaf [20-21] killed Muslims who opposed him [22-24] Review

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Salafism's spread in the West is because the western mind is primed to be receptive to any doctrine that: • insists on the virtue of independent reasoning (ghayr muqallid) • is suspicious of the structures of authority • regards mysticism as “irrational superstition”.

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I'm always shocked by the way some Muslims respond to photos like this. Someone (with not enough zuhd to mind his own) publishes a random photo without context or explanation and lo and behold, the hyenas come out to eat. 1) I see women on one side and men on the other. Where

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“What causes this?”

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@ClassicalMuslim

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𝗖𝗢𝗥𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗧𝗜𝗡𝗚 𝗦𝗔𝗟𝗔𝗙𝗜𝗬𝗬𝗔𝗛: 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗿𝗸 𝘂𝗿-𝗿𝘂𝗯𝘂̄𝗯𝗶𝘆𝘆𝗮𝗵 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗮𝗹𝗯𝗶̄𝘆𝗮𝗵 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗝𝗮̄𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗶̄ 𝗔𝗿𝗮𝗯𝘀 How Allah's response to the mushrikūn's talbīyah reveals their shirk ur-rubūbiyyah as well as a major error in Salafi doctrine.

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@ClassicalMuslim

4 years

Salafis, it's normal to be upset when your beliefs are challenged. But a bricked-wall defensiveness is a sign that Allah left you misguided. Before reading, please make a duʿa for guidance, from wherever it may be🤲 Sunnis, be generous of character: the truth is on your side.

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@ClassicalMuslim

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SALAT UL-KHAYR ON THE 15TH OF SHA'BAN According to Ikrima (the great Sahabi) the night of the 15th of Sha'ban is the "Blessed Night" in sura 44:3. The saliheen welcome this night with dhikr & tawba. One such act is Salat ul-Khayr (The Prayer of Benefit). What is the "benefit"?

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MEDIA LIES ABOUT HAMAS [THREAD] Let's be clear: Hamas is not one organisation, but a conglomeration of five, some with different moral temperaments and theological leanings. Therefore, as Orthodox Sunnis we do not necessarily agree with everything some of them do under the

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@ClassicalMuslim

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CHRISTIAN: "Allah incarnated in a body but we don't know how - it's a mystery." SALAFI: "Allah has a literal limb but we don't know how". SUNNI: Can anyone spot the difference? Or IS there a difference?

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@ClassicalMuslim

4 years

[1] The word god [ilāh] is sometimes defined as that which is “worthy of wor-ship”. Allah is the only one worthy of worship. Why? Because He is the LORD of all existence. It is His Lordship (creator, sustainer, cause of harm and benefit) that makes Him WORTHY of worship.📖

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@ClassicalMuslim

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[7] ... when Ya'qūb PROSTRATED to Yūsuf (as) he thus "worshipped someone who wasn't his Lord". Such a claim is kufr. You can't say: "it was allowed back then" OR "he's excused by ignorance." Shirk was NEVER allowed, is never excusable & Prophets don't make errors in shirk.

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@ClassicalMuslim

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1) CRITIQUE OF WAHHABI-SALAFISM A “twitterised” version of my forthcoming book. But first... 1a) NON-MUSLIMS Salafism is a different religion posing as Islam & predominates in the West. Taking Islam from them is like taking Catholicism from Lutherans. It’s a whole other thing!

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[24] Whomever Allah guides by this knowledge or leaves in misguidance and stubbornness, that is His will. The sovereignty belongs to Him. May Allah bless the Prophet ﷺ, his Companions, his Family & shield the believers from the assaults of those ignorant of lā ilāha ill-Allah.

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@ClassicalMuslim

4 years

[2] If you believe that someone is your god (worthy of worship) it's because you believe they have attributes that make them worthy - attributes of lordship. Your god is ALWAYS your lord. This is how it's defined in the most authoritative Arabic dictionary "Al-Lisān al-ʿArab".

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@ClassicalMuslim

4 years

Was Ibn Abd al-Wahhāb an authority? • he's not listed in the Hanbalī biographical literature except as a heretic • no scholar approved of him • he condemned his teachers as ignorant of the shahāda & Islam So where did he get his ʿilm? Apparently, Allah blessed him with it:

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@IbneKhan01

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MIAW AND HIS TEACHERS Ibn Ábd al-Wahhāb al-Najdī al-Khārijī stated in one of his letters as recorded in Durar al-Saniyyah: “And I inform you about myself: I swear by Allāh whom there is none worthy to worship except Him,

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@ClassicalMuslim

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[6] The EXTERNAL ACT comes from this internal condition. Without it, the act is meaningless. Thus, an atheist who performs Salah did not worship Allah. He had no ubūdiyyah driving the act b/c he did not believe in Allah's rubūbiyyah. Worship CANNOT be the ACT ONLY, otherwise..

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@ClassicalMuslim

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[5] The reason is b/c feeling that someone has a DIVINE POWER over you [rubūbiyyah] puts you in a condition of humility & servitude to them [ubūdiy-yah]. This is enough to make you a "worshipper" of that thing even if you don't physically act upon it. Thus, worship is internal.

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@ClassicalMuslim

3 years

6 out of 11 books on ISIS’ school curriculum were written by Ibn Abdul Wahhab (la’natulahi alayh). Salafiyyah’s pathway to murder is intrinsic to its doctrine. No matter how “soft” the others are, so long as you share the theology of ISIS, we’ll regard you with the same hatred.

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@End_Wahhabism

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Ex-IS member who chained up Yazidi girl, 5, and left her to die in scorching heat is jailed for life | World News | Sky News

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[3] The Qur'an also confirms this explicitly 📖. So whenever dictionaries & ulema define god (ilāh) as "that which is worshipped" the attributes of lordship are always IMPLIED as the reason WHY they're worshipped, even if not mentioned explicitly. Again, your god IS your lord

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@ClassicalMuslim

3 years

Salafis, please help me out with this.

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@ClassicalMuslim

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@One_Dawah Your question presumes that "sufism" is antithetical to "traditional Sunni-Islam" when the Tabaqat of the Hanbalis (my School) is full of favourable mentions of Sufis. Either you're ignorant & should be silent or you'll say anything to be an online celebrity. I hope I'm wrong...

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[23] To review. MIAW was: • IGNORANT: a 7 year old knows the shahada • UPON KUFR: judged Muslims kuffar b/c their shahada was invalid (but he was wrong). • KHAWARIJ: used verses about mushriks against Muslims & killed them. 2 contradictory shahadas =2 different religions.

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[4] It works the other way too. If you make something your LORD you've automatically made it your GOD/object of worship. A Christian who believes 'Jesus is my Lord & Saviour' regards him as "worthy of worship", even if he doesn't physically prostrate to him. See the Qur'an📖

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[8] So god (ilāh) INCLUDES lord (rabb). This is confirmed by Taqi ud-Din Ibn Taymiyyah: "godhead includes within it lordship... when one is mentioned it includes the other, even if each word has its own meaning." [Majmu al-Fatawa, II, p. 275] Further evidence in sura 21:22 📖

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[19] The fact that MIAW had HIS OWN personal understanding of lā ilāha ill-Allah is evident in his own words, claiming that none of his teachers knew the mean-ing, but rather that Allah somehow 'inspired' or 'graced' him with it.

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[9] MIAW changed all this. How? PHASE 1: MIAW said: "The Jahili mushriks believed Allah was their ONLY LORD, but they had other GODS besides Him, which they believed DID NOT have attributes of lordship [rubūbiyyah]." Thus he conceived of GOD [ilāh] and LORD [rabb] as SEPARATE.

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[21] So when you see quotes from MIAW that he only made takfir on those "who rejected the truth"; know that his definition of "truth" was HIS OWN PERSONAL one, not that of Islam. He thus killed people who held the genuine shahada. It's no wonder why all ulema rejected him.

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[11] So now, let's review the 2 definitions of god [ilāh] SUNNI: "god is the one you believe is your lord/creator-sustainer/possessing attribute which make Him worthy of worship". WAHHABI: "god is the one you direct an ACT of worship to, but you don't believe has lordship".

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[20] So what happened next? His troops fought anyone who disagreed. Countless Muslims were killed IN HIS OWN LIFETIME & more after. This is document-ed by his student & appointed historian Ibn Ghannam. For a visual reference see videos of ISIS slaughtering & terrorising Muslims!

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[22] Salafis still uphold MIAW's shahada. It's the basis of their religion & takfir of Muslims. So next time a Salafi argues about intercession or mawlid, etc. remind them to get their priorities in order: "If your shahada is kufr, you have no right to speak about anything."

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@ClassicalMuslim

3 years

Anyone who says Allah’s istiwa is literal has likened Him to creation and thereby technically invalidated his belief in Allah’s power and authority. Since the one who is like creation cannot possess true rububiyyah. So yes, literal and figurative ARE mutually contradictory.

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@ClassicalMuslim

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Did this Salafi just refute himself with his own thread?He quoted Ibn al-Qayyim saying the mushriks (i.e., Quraysh) actually committed shirk ur-rububiyyah. Hanging yourself by a rope is an unpleasant way to go, but to hang yourself by a thread? That's something else.

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[10] MIAW's claim that the mushriks believed Allah was their ONLY LORD is false. As we've shown, their GODS were also their LORDS. So, the whole basis for dividing lord from god was wrong to begin with. Imām al-Tabari also confirms that the mushriks "DENIED His rubūbiyyah".

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[14] PHASE 3: MIAW said whoever doesn't accept HIS shahada is more ignorant than the Jahili mushriks. This was mass takfir on Muslims, b/c if they didn't know the shahada then they couldn't have believed in it. (He added that whoever doesn't join him in takfir is also a kafir).

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@islamicpepe @SalafisUnveiled @Abu_Fatima44 1) Everything in religion is a means (waseelah) to Allah. Everything done within shariah and intended for drawing closer to Him is a LEGITIMATE means. Means are tools; the end sought is nearness to Allah. Times, places, people & objects are examples of means we can use to Him...

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[15] THE SAHABA DEFINE THE SHAHADA Let's compare MIAW's shahada to the Sahabas', then see who was the kafir. • Umar ibn al-Khattāb "There is no ilah (fulfiller of needs) except Allah." • Ibn Abbās, a master mufassir: "There is no ilah (Source of Harm or Benefit) except Allah."

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[17] So there it is! The Quran says ilāh means on thing. MIAW says: "No, it DOES NOT - it means something else". The Qur'an & salaf define the shahada one way. MIAW defines it another way & makes takfir on those who stand by the other definition. So who is the kafir?

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[13] Now compare the 2 different shahadas: THE TRUE MUHAMMAD ﷺ: "There is no ILAH (lord creator, sustainer, cause of benefit/harm etc.) except Allah". THE FALSE MUHAMMAD "There is no ILAH (one to whom acts of worship are directed & IS NOT creator & sustainer) except Allah".

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[18] There is no ikhtilaf on the meaning of THE SHAHADA. MIAW did not simply have a different meaning (which is bad enough), but made takfir on those who take the original meaning from the Qur'an & salaf. MIAW cannot be rescued from this. It is an error of both kufr & kharijism.

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@ClassicalMuslim

2 years

Imam Salih Ash-Shami Ad-Dumi Al-Hanbali, one of the living authorities of the Hanbali School was recently detained by the Salafi-Wahhabi government of Saudi Arabia, part of a general crackdown of Syrian residents in the Kingdom. Please pray for him. .

Syrian Scholar Sheikh Saleh Al Shami Detained in Saudi Arabia - Together For Justice

Several Syrians residing in Saudi Arabia were also detained for unknown reasons.

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@ClassicalMuslim

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[12] PHASE 2: Next, MIAW plugged this new definition of ilāh into the shahada. So when the mushriks heard lā ilāha ill-Allah, "ilāh was NOT the Creator, Sustainer or Regulator", rather the intent of the Prophet ﷺ was: "do not dedicate acts of worship to other than Allah".

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The fact that you consider 70 Mu'tazilite heretics to be "scholars" tells me you don't know what a scholar is. The ulema are the inheritors of the prophets. The leaders of innovation are not called "ulema".

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THE MUSHRIKŪN OF ARABIA HAD ZERO TAWHID... ZERO. Ibn Abdul Wahhab (MIAW) misused verses of the Qur'an to claim that the pagan Arabs believed Allah was the ONLY Lord (creator, sustainer, etc) but they worshipped many gods. This is kufr as it contradicts the Qur'an. He used...

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@ClassicalMuslim

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Mr @joebradford , did Allah command to shirk when He said: ❝Do not make your calling on [lā tajʿalū duʿā] the Messenger in the same manner you call on one another...❞ [24:63] and: ❝...call on [wa id'ʿū, literally "make duʿā"] your witnesses apart from Allah.❞ [2:23]

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@joebradford

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No amount of rationalization will negate the Quranic narrative and how it applied to the context it was revealed in. Making dua to other than Allah makes them an Ilah. Making dua to other than Allah is shirk. Making dua to the dead is Shirk. Plain and simple.

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MORE DISHONEST SALAFI HERMENEUTICS REGARDING GRAVES [A QUICK 3-POINT THREAD] I received a question yesterday and thought to answer here for everyone's benefit. The questioner asked for a response to two hadiths which Salafis interpret as examples of Muslim “grave-worship” and

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@ClassicalMuslim

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@EbnHussein1424 Do you understand the meaning of "shirk" @EbnHussein1424 ? Where on earth did you learn your religion? Shirk is to believe in the lordship of other than Allah. Whether you call it uluhiyyah or rububiyyah, major shirk is ALWAYS a violation of the Oneness of Allah's Lordship.

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[16] THE TABIʿIN DEFINE THE SHAHADA • Sheikh al-Islam Sufyān ibn ʿUyaynah & Abu ʿĀliya, a tafsir authority: "There is no ilah (Source of asylum, fear & sanctuary) except Allah." • Qatāda ibn Diʿāma, a tafsir authority: "There is no ilāh (fulfiller of our needs) except Allah."

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What will Salafis say now? --- "Oh, the mushriks' rububiyyah was imperfect." Excuse me? They ascribed: • authority • success • sustenance • and rububiyyah to other than Allah. What does perfect or imperfect have to do with anything? They did not have tawhid at all!

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@SalafiFallacy

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IBN KATHIR BELIEVES MUSHRIKS HAVE TAWHID IN RUBUBIYYAH? 🧵 Like all deviant 'Muslim' sects, Salafis love to cherry-pick quotes from a Sunni Scholar to suit their views, while ignoring other quotes from the very same scholar which refutes their entire cult.

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Anyone who says that a mushrik who dies unrepentant can be excused of his shirk has disbelieved. There is no excuse for major shirk! This Fawzan individual should be taken to court, corrected, then flogged for uttering kufr to the masses and calling to the way of the shayatin!

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Am I the only one not convinced? 1) How do you know they are qualified to comprehensively understand and interpret the data? Where’s the “research and evidence” that validates them as scholars in the first place? 2) What qualifies YOU to assess the “strength” of an evidence?

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Al-Qurtubi quoted al-Hassan. A Salafi (annoyed that quote offends his theology) insists that he won't accept it without a sanad. So I posed a question to him. Here's what happened...

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@ClassicalMuslim

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@abdirah29441551 @DarthAshari @Al_Lailkasee 1) Most mufassirun state their isnads in the introduction of their book which saves them repeating it for every commentary on every ayah. I've never read al-Qurtubi's introduction to know, but if you're that curious you can look it up yourself. BUT, even if you did...

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@abdirah29441551 @DarthAshari @Al_Lailkasee 1) Most mufassirun state their isnads in the introduction of their book which saves them repeating it for every commentary on every ayah. I've never read al-Qurtubi's introduction to know, but if you're that curious you can look it up yourself. BUT, even if you did...

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@FloidHidden @ali_aqeedah Assalamu alaikum brothers. 1/6) The hadiths by Abu Dawud and Khatib al-baghdad tell us that the 1 sect of out of the 73 that's saved is As-Sawadul Adham (The Vast Majority). The 4 schools of fiqh and the 3 schools of creed have always represented the majority. Next...

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1) Who’s “it” and who answered? 2) What do you mean by “above”? The literal dictionary meaning (i.e.occupying a physical space on top of something)? Or do you to leave its meaning to Allah? 3) The questioner asked “how”? Don’t Salafis agree it’s haram to ask about the kafiyyah?

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It was said, when asked "how do we know Our Lord", that He is above his throne 'بحد' Does this qualify as anthropomorphism?

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@Al_Lailkasee @abdirah29441551 @DarthAshari 🙄 Right… okay. Please: 1) show me the last sanad you received 2) show me your biographical research to authenticate everyone in that sanad. 3) if you make taqlid of the authentication of the one who gave you the sanad, then why ask him for a sanad in the first place? 👇

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SALAFI CONFUSION ABOUT "TAWHID" and "SHIRK UR-RUBUBIYYAH" Salafiyyah appear to now be shifting the goal posts after the pressure that Sunnis are now piling on them. This is very interesting discussion and I'd like to summarise the alarming errors the Salafi committed...

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@Look4Yourself @IbrahimIbnMahm2 Yes and Tabari's tafsir of this EXACT Ayah is that they take LORDS besides Allah. واتخاذهم من دونه أربابًا

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That's rich @Ishaaq__Newton ! Which is worse: stupidly hanging yourself up down whilst making dhikr, or changing the definition of the shahada, corrupting tawhid, claiming that salvation depends on your deeds, and committing shirk by likening Allah to creation? Errors in

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“Silly wahhabis trying to get rid of spirituality from Islam” The spirituality:

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@islamicpepe @SalafisUnveiled @Abu_Fatima44 5) Time, places, and people possess no power. They are all a creation and a means to an end. Power is only with their Creator. The Prophet ﷺ is the most be-loved of all creation. So using him as a means for dua to be answered is wise and praiseworthy. Assalamu alaikum!

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@abdirah29441551 @DarthAshari @Al_Lailkasee 3) @DarthAshari didn't need to quote a sanad, because Saladis don't. When they listen to their teachers quoting the salaf do they ask them for a sanad, or spend months researching it? No. They accept it b/c they ALREADY accept the speaker's authority and don't presume he's lying.

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[THREAD] UNDERSTANDING PAGAN GODS... AND WHY IBN ABDUL WAHHAB DIDN'T UNDERSTAND SHIRK A polite Salafi brother sent me this hadith (online Salafi edition) as evidence the Jahili Arabs believed in Allah's sole rububiyyah (Creator, Sustainer, etc) Let's break this down inshallah

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@islamicpepe @SalafisUnveiled @Abu_Fatima44 2) But not all means are alike. Some means are nobler than others. You can call on Allah at any TIME, but there there are BLESSED TIMES like the last third of the night where duas are stronger and His Holy Presence is likelier to be felt...

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@abdirah29441551 @DarthAshari @Al_Lailkasee 4) Imam al-Qurtubi's tafsir is accepted by As-Sawadul 'Adham (the Vast Majority, under the ulema's leadership, who Ahmad Ibn Taymiyyah identified with the "Saved Sect"). If the vast majority have accepted it, it's enough for the layman. Ikhtilaf is left with the ulema.

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@abdirah29441551 @DarthAshari @Al_Lailkasee 2)... You'd be still forced to make taqlid of him that everyone in his isnad is sound. If you look up the Ilmul-rijal and Tabaqat to investigate them, you're now making taqlid of the accuracy of the author of those texts. So then you'd have to research HIM. It goes on and on.

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@Al_Lailkasee @abdirah29441551 @DarthAshari 4) If you do decide to authenticate the sanad yourself, please also show evidence that the BIOGRAPHERS who approved of those in the sanad, were themselves reliable assessors of the trustworthiness of narrators in general. Should I go on…? See you in a few decades inshallah.

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@SalafiFallacy Yes, the word is āniyya which comes from ana (I), referring to Allah's "existence". @kalamunveiled basically stuck the word "rabb" in front of it. I hope his nafs gets punctured from the humiliation you just gave him. Salafis don't mess around with OUR books and OUR scholars!

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How Ibn ʾAbdal Wahhāb (the cult's founder) changed the meaning of la ilāha ill-Allah itself, contradicting the Qur'an and the salaf, and then made takfīr on anyone who disagreed with him.

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@ClassicalMuslim

4 years

HOW IBN ABDUL WAHHAB CHANGED THE SHAHADA [THREAD] [1-8] ilāh & rabb are inseparable [9-14] • MIAW redefined ilāh • used this to redefine the shahada • made takfir on anyone who disagreed [15-19] contradicted the Salaf [20-21] killed Muslims who opposed him [22-24] Review

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@islamicpepe @SalafisUnveiled @Abu_Fatima44 3) You can pray to Allah at home alone, but one doubts that prayer in congregation, or at the harem, in the Prophet’s ﷺ mosque or at the Rawdah carries far higher merit as a means to draw close to Him...

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@EbnHussein1424 It seems you jumped "out of the frying pan (Shi'ism) and into the fire (Salafism)". All I sense in your writing is nafs and self-admiration. This may be the obstacle preventing you from tawfiq in right guidance. Allahu 'alam. Sort yourself out and stop accusing people...

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@islamicpepe @SalafisUnveiled @Abu_Fatima44 4) You can call on your friend to make dua for you. But not all people are alike, and Allah has created some people whose prayers are more likely to be answered. This is explicit in the many hadiths. So using them as a means carries more merit than just any random Muslim...

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@FloidHidden @ali_aqeedah 2/6) Salafiyyah know they're a minority and to protect themselves they reproduce statements from the salaf to suggest that the minority in the Ummah can be the saved sect. Ibn Mas'ud's statement was said to ulema who lived in Baghdad during the emergence of an early heresy.

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@EbnHussein1424 ... It is this belief that makes Abu Jahl prostrating to his idol shirk and the prophet Ya'qub prostrating to Yusuf (alayhimussalam) not shirk. Identical actions, but entirely different beliefs. Major shirk does not occur in a physical action; it occurs in beliefs!

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This is what I have been asking Salafis all along. You claim Abu Jahl has īmān in tawhīd al-rubūbiyyah. So when he is asked in the grave, “Who is your Lord?” how does he answer?

The Heights

@SalafisUnveiled

4 years

This hadith is problematic for Salafis. It clearly shows that the disbelievers, including the Pagan Meccans, DO NOT truly know that Allah is their LORD. They thus do NOT have "Tawhīd ur-Rubūbiyyah" as the Salafi sect claims. For Sunni Muslims, the disbelievers have zero Tawhīd.

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@Acts17David Please help me out with 3 questions: 1/3) You called Maryam a slave-girl but the term "mā malakāt aymānukum" in Muslim legal texts is a woman to whom one is legally married whilst she is a slave, rather than free. Why are you interested in what a consenting couple do in privacy?

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4 years

TO SHEIKH GOOGLE'S SALAFI STUDENTS: The google algorithm couldn't care less about your "manhaj". What you get online isn't a reflection of truth but a reflection of what's on "trend", what's available, what's translated and a whole set of other factors the algorithm prioritises.

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AN EX-HINDU MUSLIM CONVERT WHO PROSTRATES TO AN IDOL [MINI THREAD] This is a side-track from the list of promised threads on my header image, and my upcoming thread in July (insha'Allah) but it seems pertinent. I have been asked:

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3 years

@FloidHidden @ali_aqeedah 3/6) He was reassuring them that even if the whole city falls under heresy, you two represent the majority which is spread all over the Muslim world. Just because one city or town falls into heresy does not mean the entire Ummah from China to Spain have sunk into heresy as well.

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3 years

@EbnHussein1424 You said sujud is in general shirk, but in specific cases not. What do you mean by "in general"? Where is this in the language of the shar'iah. The only thing that makes an act shirk is the accompanying BELIEF in the lordship of one's idol. Now...

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4 years

Assalamu alaikum all, I released a tweet on how Ibn Abdal Wahhab changed the shahada. However, to guarantee the integrity of the research, I have deleted it to proof-read one more time. Please share it again when I re-post it shortly inshallah. Thank you.

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4 years

[1] ᴛʜᴇ sᴀʟᴀғɪ ᴀʀɢᴜᴍᴇɴᴛ The hadith sources tell us that during their hajj the Jāhilī Arabs used to chant the following prayer, known as the talbīyah: ‘At Your service, O Allah! You have no partner – except the partner that You have; You own him and whatever he owns.’

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3 years

@3okhir @SalafisUnveiled I see. I have a digital copy of the very same edition you showed me. Let me approach this as respectfully as possible without causing offence. 1) He was a Hanafi. You said you left Hanafis for Salafiyyah so why are you using him as an authority? 2) His doctrine is not Wahhabi:

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1 year

[CLAIM 1]: “Hamas killed babies” The myth was started by a Zionist settler colonist who promotes genocide of Palestinians. It's an “atrocity propaganda” designed to remove sympathise from the Palestinians being massacred. In fact, the IDF murder children. Details below. ⬇️

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3 years

@Al_Lailkasee @abdirah29441551 @DarthAshari 1) You haven't answered any of my questions. It is disingenuous to question a layman's methodology for accepting the words of a scholar as doubtful simply because the alim didn't reveal his isnad, since Salafis do the same thing with THEIR teachers. Yet one of us is wrong, so...

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4 years

Why do so many Salafis insist on arguing against you, yet blocking you from replying? @AbuAR10 , sure. Ayatollah Saeed al-Hakim also acknowledged Ayatollah Khomeini as a scholar. Co-religionists ratifying each other. Nothing to do with Sunnis. But thanks for your thoughts.🙏

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@TheLastArabiann And what good did they do? Najdi dogs enter a theatre of war, bark, bite and devour other Muslims, then leave a pile of heretical and kufr sh*t behind for the ulema to clean up. This appears to be their sole purpose in creation. And when mission's accomplished they literally

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@Al_Lailkasee @abdirah29441551 @DarthAshari 2) ... the question then arises: what is your standard for trusting YOUR alim who quotes the salaf without isnad? OUR standard is: a) Qurtubi is from the VAST MAJORITY whom the ulema (including Salafiyah's beloved Ahmad ibn Taymiyyah) referred to as the "Saved Sect". But...

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3 years

@Al_Lailkasee @abdirah29441551 @DarthAshari 3) Salafiyyah are self-consciously (like ALL the sects/cults including the Shia' and the Ahmadis) a MINORITY. Please answer these questions. There were several if you read everything I said.

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3 years

@EbnHussein1424 you don't know of being mushriks or you'll be lapping up your own vomit on the Day of Judgment. I'm warning you!

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@FloidHidden @ali_aqeedah 4/6) This is the same for Muslims living in non-Muslims. Two believers amongst a town of unbelievers REPRESENT the jama'ah because they are still conected to the vast majority spread the world over. Regarding the Mu'tazila they were NEVER a majority in Baghdad!

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4 years

WHICH TOPIC WOULD YOU LIKE ADDRESSED NEXT? 1) Irrefutable proof the Jahili Arabs had many lords & responses to āyāt Salafis use to say otherwise 2) Evidence Salafis commit shirk 3) Wahhabi Trinity: striking comparison with Christianity 3) Salafi vs Sunni Doctrine of Salvation

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@IbnAbdulQadir1 @islamicpepe @SalafisUnveiled Assalamu alaikum, 1a) They did, in several sound reports. In the last 70 years Salafis have tried to degrade these hadiths to justify accusations of shirk against Sunnis. This implicitly indicts those who authenticated those hadiths (including al-Bukhari) as mushriks.

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@SalafisUnveiled @AlShurahbeel A jamāʿ is represented by it's beliefs. If those beliefs are kufr, the jamāʿ is kufr. But the individuals within it cannot be judged kuffār. If they have affirmed the shahada they are regarded as Muslims - even if they claim affiliation to that jamā...

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3 years

@SalafisUnveiled @LarMusulman Dear @LarMusulman , the word "maqam" does not mean "doing the same job" as someone. It means to be at someone's RANK or STATION. And he clear ays "aqamahu" - Allah PLACED or ESTABLISHED him on that level. Any opposition to the words here is just denial. All this shows is that...

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[5] ᴄᴏɴᴄʟᴜsɪᴏɴ Allah has exposed the mushriks' talbiyah 3 times as proof of their shirkur-rubūbiyyah. Knowing this, any Salafi who uses the talbiyah to say "the mushriks did not ascribe lordship to their idols" has thrown aside Allah’s words for that of a mushrik's.

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[1.6/2] If a mushrik says "Allah has a partner" and Allah responds, "No there are no other lords besides Me" this means that by the word "partner" the mushrik intended 𝑙𝑜𝑟𝑑. The true meaning of the mushrik's words lies in Allah's judgment, not some group's interpretation.

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It's only blurred by Salafiyyah's aim to be Hanbalis, just like Ahmadis claim to be Hanafis and by people who can't tell the difference because they know nothing about the actual Hanbalis. The first people to takfir Ibn Abdul Wahhab's movement were Hanbalis. If he was Hanbali

Dr. Faraaz Yawar Bari (999 IQ) 10'9🩺🥼🦚

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1 year

@coolmonothiest @Raaaatiba Maybe he is a Hanbali? Read somewhere that he is. Don't they consider Asharis and Maturidis as valid? Also where exactly is the line between Salafis and Hanbalis blurred?

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@nasrumv Why do you need 40 to convince you he's false? Is this the Quran & Sunnah litmus test? People aren't Sunnis because they've falsified all the other sects, but because they trust in the scholars who represent their faith when they tell them “Don't follow this sect”. If every

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[1.5] By contrast, the orthodox Sunni position is that the mushriks did regard the idols (their "partners with Allah") as 𝑙𝑜𝑟𝑑𝑠, believing they had a share of power/ownership over creation. Thus they had NO 𝑡𝑎𝑤ℎ𝑖̄𝑑 𝑢𝑟-𝑟𝑢𝑏𝑢̄𝑏𝑖𝑦𝑦𝑎ℎ as Salafis claim.

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@nasrumv 1) Imam Ahmad was denounced by the Mu'tazili scholars in his time, not Sunni ulema. I'm not interested in the judgment of anyone that is not an alim of Ahlul-Sunnah. 2) None of the ulema that criticised MIAW are "heard of" by you! Speak for yourself. The reason we know who any

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[2.5] 𝗦𝘂𝗺𝗺𝗮𝗿𝘆 So far… • The mushriks' talbīyah is an absurd paradox, exposed as shirkul-rubūbiyyah. • Allah's response completely contradicts the Salafi understanding. • Salafi use of this "evidence" shows they prefer a mushrik's absurd claims over Allah's Judgement.

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ᴄᴏɴᴛᴇɴᴛs [1] The Salafi argument Proofs against Salafiyyah: [2] Sūra 30:28 [3] Sūra 17:111 [4] Sūra 12:106 [5] Conclusion: the "partners" the mushriks ascribed to Allah were their lords and the talbīyah is evidence 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 Salafis, not for them.

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