The answer is already in the question: INDOOR. Respecting other people has nothing to do with culture, it's about respect. Other cultures with health issues that prohibit exposure to vape smoke are the same. Itβs never about culture. This is not about you, don't be like Selena.
Jennie tells Harperβs Bazaar why she apologized for vaping indoors:
βWhat can I do? If Korean people think itβs wrong, Iβve got to make up for it. Itβs like, I get why you guys are upset. Itβs cultural, itβs history. Itβs time. And I canβt go against time.β
This group really loves gaslighting people. You are all idols, professional performers, and professional SINGERS, the least you can do is be decent at your job. And what does MHJ and her brain dead clout have to do with them not being able to sing and being overworked?
The fact that you all bring up every idol instead of holding your faves accountable clearly shows how you don't care about these issues. You just want your fave not to get cancelled.
yunjin is currently being bullied and bodyshamed for drinking starbucks but karina and multiple other idols were able to do so multiple times and we just moved on?
@SoobinsBreadx
@oujumbotron
And that's the problem, just because she can sell doesn't mean she doesn't need to improve her vocals. At the end of the day, she's an idol. If singing doesn't matter to them, then they should just accept all those criticisms, brush them off, and not get hurt.
The fact that DIA, LABOUM and other nugu are there but not newjeans
@HYBEOFFICIALtwt
doesn't change the fact that NewJeans is and remains the most successful girl group you have, despite any sabotage or mistreatment.
I'm not a fan of itzy, but the tokkis need to stfu and ensure that the manipulative pedo woman doesn't exploit nwjs any further, and that hybe doesn't mistreat them. SCHOOL concept is literally one of the most basic ideas in the world; stop acting like nwjs concepts are original.
@genzo931
@arohnera
Other artists, even though they debuted years ago, still take time to train their vocals. If HYBE can't put her in vocal lessons, then it's her responsibility since she knows, she needs vocal lessons.
How can HYBE group stans, especially this fandom, still have the audacity to brag about streams when they have already been exposed for payola and manipulation?
@lisamostpopular
The way you all act like the man is a nobody who needs attention is crazy. The man is literally the son of one of the billionaires in the world, he is already known even before Lisa came into his life. You all need to chill for once.
Your fave can be inspired by Taemin, but Taemin can't continue doing what he's been doing since 2014 because it's considered plagiarism since your fave got inspired by it in the big 2023-2024 π€‘π
@SoobinsBreadx
@oujumbotron
So her fans should just accept that their fave sucks at singing and stop guilt-tripping or saying that people are bullying her, when they're just criticizing her vocals.
Illit is not popular. They're just like 5050, where one of their songs went viral. But the difference is that Illit is a hybe group, and hybe can still manipulate literally everything. Remove Illit from hybe, and they will become just like some random nugu group.
Hybe could have just said qwer or Day6 has comforting messages and that's it, but they really love to insert others, lmao. The mediaplay is crazy πΉπΉ The way they also use Seventeen for this sh*t. Yeah cause "you, you, you, you like it's magnetic.." is really comforting.
@kuahsop23
And it doesn't change the fact that the song is good. FYI, Lisa's boyfriend is a prominent Zionist, and Jennie is wearing a Zionist brand. In fact, all of the BP members are wearing and endorsing brands that fund the genocide.
SM, YG, & JYP have all become the Big 3 because of their influence in Kpop over the years, they produce legends after legend. HYBE became the biggest company because of one group and by continuously acquiring established companies. They just want an easy way to be on top.
@SoobinsBreadx
@oujumbotron
Yoona can sell while she can sing and dance and not to mention she's an actress too. She deserves all the push that she gets in their company and she's proving why she deserves it.
@SoobinsBreadx
@oujumbotron
Lmao, I don't care if they're successful. The fact that they sucks at singing, especially Sakura. Imagine 7 years in Jpop and 6 years in Kpop, and yet she's giving nothing other than the fact that she can sell.
Being inspired by a group is okay, it's normal. But copying their entire existence is not. Bethief could have avoided this if they had just admitted that newjeans was on their moodboard, but Bethief is still denying the obvious, lmao.
During a recent injunction hearing, Min HeeJin provided alleged evidence from a HYBE employee that ILLITβs creative director requested NewJeansβ planning document and made an identical plan for ILLIT.
The world can provide all the evidence of this company's disgusting criminal activities, yet hybe stans still act as if the world is lying and that hybe is a saint that can do no wrong.
Lmao, stealing nwjs' entire concept, like literally their entire existence, then proceeding to mistreat them while erasing nwjs' achievements. Hybe and Belift are going to hell.
The way y'all are acting like this just happened now, lmao. If y'all want to defend Yunjin, then defend her without bringing other idols into her own issue. All these idols in these pictures were from November to December, they all got called out and criticized.
2018: gidle, izone, loona
2019: gidle, itzy, izone
2020: gidle, itzy, izone
2021: gidle, itzy, aespa
2022: gidle, ive, nj
2023: gidle, ive, nj
2024: gidle, aespa, nj
GIDLE is the only 4th gen group who never had a flop year even in 2021 where they were mostly on hiatus
These parents will be surprised that many nugu companies are actually like thisβliving in a dorm with cockroaches, forcing them to stop their education to practice. It's bad, but that's the sacrifice you need to make, especially if you are from a nugu. This is not new to kpop.
NewJeans' parents come forward to speak out against the girls' poor living condition under Source Music, accusing HYBE of smearing the group's reputation, etc.
@SoobinsBreadx
@oujumbotron
She was the only actress in that group when they debuted and the fact that her drama is big in s.k. that time is not really her fault. And Taeyeon is literally popular too and also Jessica if I'm not mistaken.
People need to realize that idols are not a family and did not choose to be together from the very beginning. The company put them together, much like in other professional settings, and that's normal. They are simply doing their job.
At least haerin/nwjs doesn't post, write letters, or create documentary literally aimed at gaslighting people criticizing their vocals. And HYBE is not suing those who criticize their vocals, while LSRF is doing all of that and being a national embarrassment on top of it.
Other company stan like the company because their fave artists are there, while HYBE stans seem to support the company itself rather than its artists. I don't understand why the heck they always defend HYBE while hating on every artist who exposes issues within the company.
Knets suspicious over HYBE using the media to write bad press about Jungkook's real estate profit, when he hasn't even sold his house, in the light of his support to NewJeans
SM artists call lsm father because he is the founder of SM and was still active in the company's processes before. But his artists didnβt kiss his ass when he got kicked out, and some of them were actually happy about it. JYPβs relationship with his artists is purely business..
Improvement is really not in their vocabulary. I guess those letters, middle fingers, and the documentary show how they don't care about improving anymore because, with Hybe, you can do anything you want and achieve everything while still being among the privileged dozens.
Let's be real, the fundamental figure in the girl groups at HYBE was Min Heejin. She initiated the entire concept and established the easy and basic genre that both of their current girl groups are following. But what do you expect from this company?
Like the fact that they debut as idols, IDOLS, not just a bunch of dancers, actresses, or models. Their main job is to release songs that they need to sing, yet they canβt perform them live because they canβt sing. Like, what the f**k is that?
The guts of hybe to criticize the looks and skills of other groups, when a lot of tone-deaf, dozens and mediocre idols in K-pop came from them. Not to mention, Hybe's 'nose' exist, along with their ugly clowns, lmao π€‘π
Internal documents revealed at the National Assembly Audit shows HYBE demeaning the looks and skills of SM ,YG and JYP's artists ft. HYBE claims that the auditors are lying
@SoobinsBreadx
@oujumbotron
Are you really comparing her to YOONA? Lmao, Yoona can sing. She's the weakest vocalist in her group, but she still sings live. Go watch their debut live and then compare it to Sakura's 6 years in Kpop, and still, Yoona is way better than her.
@Beeba91889163
@sakulsfm
@Koreaboo
Maybe because this happened in December when idols and companies were being criticized for supporting Zionist and wy never held a shitbucks again since then, while yunjin? how many times they got called out and the fact that she's friends with somi too...
These girls are the victims. I hope they realize that mhj is not the solution and will never be the solution. HYBE is trash, and so is mhj. Their parents need to step up because itβs clear that these girls are already being manipulated.
@sakulsfm
@Koreaboo
Y'all need to be serious and stop bringing every idol into this issue. This picture emerged when K-pop idols and companies were being exposed for being paid, yet wy never repeated it, unlike your faves who knows but continues to do it repeatedly.
HYBE employees get exposed for saying that NewJeans' hate is justified, writing hate comments about Jungkook and NewJeans, starting fake malicious rumors about Dolphiners Film's directors, etc.
The difference between them is that the Big 3 have actually valued talent and been organic since the beginning, while the other one has just risen from the grave because of illegal activities and is still continuing them.
Yet, criminal dui suga is still in bts and bsh is still a fugly ass pedo while other hybe executives involved in criminal activities are still around in hybe, yet nothing is said by armyrats. No trending hashtags, nothing.
People saying sheβs going to save Newjeans are mistaken. Sheβs actually going to save herself. Nwjs needs saving from her and from hybe. This woman is grooming and manipulating nwjs, and hybe is being trash as always. MHJ and hybe are the same, there is nothing good about them.
I mean, they actually changed the industry by debuting while being tone-deaf and part of a dozen. It shows that you can be a K-pop idol with non-existent talent π
They are trying to give lesserafim credit for Hanni standing up to the bullying NewJeans received from Hybe
Hanni testifying has nothing to do with lesserafim βwanting to change the idol industryβ
Sheβs actually doing it and facing criticism from Fearnots for doing so
The way this is considered a good performance by Hybe stans or fans of this group is just crazy π like, are we hearing and seeing the same performance?
It's already 2024, and IVE is doing well. They received criticism but chose to improve rather than posting a π, writing a letter, or creating a documentary to gaslight those who criticized them. They worked hard, and their progress is evident. I can't say the same for your fave.
Having a good tone and being a good vocalist are two different things. I might like Eunchae's or anyone in lsrf's tone, but that doesn't mean they are better vocalists than other idols.
@csanspudding
lol some of the greatest vocalists in kpop like ailee and chungha have said they love his voice and tone what is taemin known for other than being a has-been exactly ?π
Mcountdown encore taken down, Coachella clips taken down, attempt to shut MHJ, barely any articles appearing during Dahn World cult accusationβ¦ and itβs only past couple monthsβ¦.
Then you need to go back to Dec. 2023 because there is literally a long-ass thread about these idols drinking sb, getting called out, and cancelled. Those idols were called out too, others apologized, deleted their posts, and have never been seen drinking Sb again.
What??? Did you hear yourself? It's their company's job to give them work or solo gigs. They don't need to ask the bare minimum bcs that's literally their job to give them projects/gigs.
This is the difference between other groups who aren't good at singing and lsrf. When other groups are criticized for their vocals or dancing, they practice silently and work twice as hard, instead of gaslighting people and crying instead of practicing.
NewJeans could easily do your fave's choreo, but at the end of the day, NewJeans are idols, not just a bunch of dancers. Meanwhile, Le sserafim COULD not sing even if they TRIED.
They need to make a letter and another documentary to gaslight people.
The way they love to complain and gaslight everyone instead of improving their vocals is crazy π Like, girl, you debuted in IZ*ONE and now with HYBE, despite that talent of yours, and the payola is on your side. That's a lot of luck if we're talking about luck, lmao.
Le sserafim:
36% - They can't sing
18% - Being savageπ & guilt-tripping instead of improving
15% - loud Backing track
10% - Sakura and Eunchae being tone-deaf & "dozen"
7% - Plagiarism
6% - National embarrassment
4% - Yunjin drinking SB
4% - "I want to change the idol industry"
"Do I deserve to be in the spotlight with the talent that I have? Do I deserve to be where I am and showcase this, while other groups are struggling to be in the spotlight despite being more talented than me?" These are the questions they need to ask themselves and not some sh*t.
As far as I remember, album sales are not included in determining IT girls, just pure impact. Korean IT girls like Krystal, Suzy, Jennie, Irene, Nayeon, etc., became IT girls because of their impact and influence, never because of album salesπ
Fun songs have always been allowed; itβs just that Super Tuna is a terrible song. Just because it was fun or unserious song doesnβt mean it was good. Thereβs a difference.
Hybe is just a disgusting trashy company. Are they even looking in the mirror? Satan wouldnβt want to be associated with them, and even hell wouldnβt accept them with all their disgusting actions.
During a hearing at the National Assembly today (24th) it was revealed that HYBE kept a βindustry trend review dataβ document that included derogatory comments about minor trainees, to which BELIFT CEO clarified saying that it was a compilation of public comments that surfaced
Seventeen are literally there, but they can't even save Hybe's vocal reputation π This company has stained Seventeen's name with their bunch of cats, goat, and dancer artists.
@pannchoa
I thought she's the one in that 4th gen and 2nd gen dating rumors that will be released on Jan. 1. So, she is already erased in that. But what if it's NewJeans members π
Hybe really has a tendency to throw their talented artists/groups under the bus. Little 7 without Jungkook would be nothing. Hybe really stands by the idea that "talent is not important", which is why they just discard their talented artists.
Knets suspicious over HYBE using the media to write bad press about Jungkook's real estate profit, when he hasn't even sold his house, in the light of his support to NewJeans
@Beeba91889163
@sakulsfm
@Koreaboo
And not to mention, other HYBE stans literally send protest trucks outside HYBE and boycott them for supporting these brands and working with Zionists. You all can't just say she doesn't know anything until now.
First, they couldn't sing. Second, they became a national embarrassment, which is why everyone's vocals are even a topic of conversation. And third, instead of improving, they're gaslighting people who criticize them and posting middle fingers.
Maybe itβs because they are actually pretty close. BP has literally seen her since she was a kid and hung out with her. They are congratulating HER on her debut because they are close. Making shit for no reason is just stupid of you.
armyrats are on another levelβpsychotic and mentally ill. They always twist everything and make it seem like it's all about btshit. It's not the government's, that all of HYBE's issues are self-inflicted. HYBE has now become the worst trash company because of them.
Knets compare the number of articles HYBE released about Fromis_9's Jiheon VS ILLIT's Wonhee not attending schedules due to poor condition on the same day
Sometimes, I think people are just plainly stupid for no reason. Like the way OP didn't even shade Le sserafim, and you're here barking about lsrf when almost everyone in the 4th gen girl group also experiences charting high and even gets RAK, CAK, and PAK.
le sserafim is currently the only girl group charting high on apple, spotify, melon, circles, and who knows what other chart but yeah the digimons are the ones that canβt even get there with an entire korean comeback. letβs get serious
I don't understand why you all bring up this pointless defense of your fave instead of holding her accountable. All these pictures happened in dec. 2023, when idols and companies were being exposed for getting paid. And you never see them holding or drinking sb again...
yunjin is currently being bullied and bodyshamed for drinking starbucks but karina and multiple other idols were able to do so multiple times and we just moved on?
This fandom needs to realize that
@BELIFTLAB
@HYBEOFFICIALtwt
been treating sunoo like he's not part of the group. like how come he only got 3 solo activities and 2 out of that is a nugu radio since his debut. Let's not pretend that he's not the most mistreated out there.
I dunno what is
@BELIFTLAB
plan for Sunoo.. No any project for both singing or dancing for him nearly 3years since debut.. He did well as Enhypen, but i want to see him as Sunoo from Enhypen too.. Let me not start with other gigs, bcs u will understand just by looking at this.
When Chaewon said they work hard and all that, I thought they would prove they can sing- a song with a vocal worthy. Instead, they decided to have a comeback with this. But what can we expect from HYBE, which thinks that skills and talent are not important for being an idol?
@Koreaboo
Le sserafim?
#3
? The way Le sserafim is here because seriously, when I listen to their songs/albums, it's nonstop 30 minutes long, and I don't even realize the songs have already changed. I thought their songs were 20 minutes long π