Have covered the Jazz and NBA for a lot of years. Mostly for
@saltcityhoops
and now help helping w/ the Jazz's Spanish-language broadcasts. Thoughts are my own.
Oh no big deal, Donovan Mitchell is just averaging 30.1 points in 32.1 minutes over the last 12 games. Nearly a point per minute on literal 50-40-90 shooting splits, that's all.
Not sad I missed the back & forth on this today, but importantly:
If a kid who had every reason to be universally loved is telling us that being a young man of color in this state was exhausting, I think our 1st instinct should be to listen & explore that, not to get defensive.
I know a lot of ppl have commented already, but to me the most cringeworthy part of this is him saying "we'll educate him." A bunch of old white dudes sitting around talking about how they'll *educate* Donovan Mitchell about race issues. Just feels extremely icky.
#utpol
Sen. President Adams talking at an ALEC meeting about how they tried to copy a Critical Race Theory bill, but failed because the Donovan Mitchell wasn’t happy. Also says CRT isn’t something we’ve seen a lot of in Utah
Just your periodic reminder than Rudy Gobert guards the same number of 3pt attempts per game as Draymond Green, and holds opponents to a lower % on said shots.
I'll say it again: if game-winning defensive plays got the same air time that game-winning offensive plays get, Rudy as an All-Star/All-NBA/MVP candidate would be the least controversial take on the planet.
How many games has he sealed for the Jazz with a big late stop/block?
I wonder if Jazz fans realize how lucky they are to have Bojan Bogdanovic as a secondary scorer. Dude has such a knack, and his combination of size and skill makes him the only Jazz guy who can do some of the things he does.
Let's look.
#videothread
Michel Jordan never averaged double digit assists or rebounds.
Kobe Bryant never averaged double digit assists or rebounds.
Steph Curry has never averaged double digit assists or rebounds.
I will inform those guys that they can't lead a title team.
Where’s the excitement? Biggest Jazz game day in, what...?? 14 years? Maybe longer, this group has a higher ceiling than the 2007 WCF Jazz. 1999??
This is a BIG day, Jazz fans.
Donovan Mitchell last season:
- Leading scorer on the best team
- 26/4/5 per game
- 2nd in above the break 3s (Curry)
- Only played 58 clutch minutes all year because Utah kicked everyone's asses
- 9-2 record w/o MC
- 31/4/7 on 47/41/84% w/o MC
Got zero 1st-5th place MVP votes.
Devin Booker this season:
— Leading scorer on the best team
— 26/5/5 per game
— 2nd in midrange makes (DeRozan)
— 57 FG%, 41 3P% in the clutch
— 22-5 record in clutch games
— 8-3 record without CP
— 28/5/7 on 52/40/90% without CP
Deserves some MVP love.
Holy crap, just focus on Gobert on these five consecutive 3rd quarter possessions. Just watch him.
That's the best defender in basketball. He doesn't get off the floor on 5 straight D trips, barely puts his hand up. This is... something's so very off.
This might just be the image that defines the 2021-22 Jazz and, consequently, the unfulfilled promise of an era. Just too little trust in each other when it matters. Not any one person’s fault, but it’s where things are at.
"Johnnie Bryant can tell Donovan Mitchell no. That right there is something that right now, that might be the
#1
thing this organization needs at this point, to tell you the truth. I'm being so real." -
@Tjonesonthenba
on
@JakeLFischer
's pod.
Before we wade further into the "WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!" fervor...
Thanks, Royce! Hell of a development story. From undrafted to Europe to free agent minicamp to one of the premier 3-and-D wings in the NBA. Awesome trajectory. Glad Utah got 5 seasons with the dude.
I legitimately don't understand how an NBA fan at large could not just love everything about Donovan Mitchell. Do you ever just sit and reflect on how amazing it is for the Jazz to have a star like him?
Things get tougher in the playoffs. Last night the Clippers found out - so does Donovan Mitchell. On yet another knockout postseason performance from Utah's 24-year-old star:
Hey we should all take a moment and congratulate
@Tjonesonthenba
. He's had this Mike stuff before pretty much everybody else, and he's been at the forefront of reporting on all the twists and turns and negotiations dating back to the trade deadline.
FWIW, there is a cluster of COVID cases in Westchester County, with one municipality being declared a "containment zone" by local govt.
Mitchell's from Westchester County, and had several friends and family down to MSG for Jazz-Knicks. So let's not pretend we know how DM got it.
Working on some Gobert stuff and came across this. 5 defenders. Gravity. If you think this guy doesn't help your spacing just because he's not hoisting 3s, then you just don't get basketball. (He scores here, by the way.)
For some reason nothing gets me verklempt like reflexive demonstrations of unconditional love & brotherhood.
Something so sweet & pure about Bogey RUNNING to Joe, instinctually rubbing his head and neck, then refusing to leave his brother's side. Gahhh, so beautiful and awful.
I don't know if the Fav thing will happen, but I really don't get why it's that controversial.
If you can give Tony Bradley's role to Fav and Ed Davis' role to Dok Azubuike, that's a freaking win.
Shaq just said on TNT that his Lakers intentionally dodged the S2M-era Jazz in the p/o.
"You notice that we won all those championships & never had to play Utah. When we first got to L.A., Utah was the team that swept us." Said Phil sat him purposely to engineer better matchups.
Derrick Favors hasn't played as a visitor in SLC since November 17, 2010.
Donovan Mitchell was an 8th grader at Greenwich County Day School in Connecticut. Jared Butler was 10. Jerry Sloan's Jazz started DW, Raja Bell, AK, Millsap & Al Jefferson for that game.
This is a great day, Jazz fans. At the end of the day, the Jazz are way closer to contention with Lauri and 15 1sts than they would have been with 20 1sts (or whatever) and no Lauri... and either way, they still have control over their own 2025 1st.
While you're constructing your hot Gobert takes, you should probably know that the Jazz were +5.2 per 100 possessions when he played, that Denver is currently the third worst playoff team for attempts at the rim AND % at the rim, and that Rudy's scoring was UP in the playoffs.
Not my battle anymore, but it’s so stupid I can’t stop myself…
Playoff net ratings of Minny’s 9 most used players. So if you tell me Gobert shouldn’t be the court, you’re either lazy, fundamentally misunderstand the point of basketball, or have an agenda. Or all 3.
Wait... what?? Hold on... what? I don't, I... what??
His reasoning for not calling the timeout is he thought that if he did, the Jazz would remove the league's top defender from the court on a possession where defense was all the mattered... AND HE DIDN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN??
Tyronn Lue on any thought to call timeout on last possession: "No." ... says he didn't want Jazz to sub Gobert out. Credited Gobert for closing out the corner
The crowd noises in this clip are the best. You can feel them deflate, then reanimate, deflate, then reanimate... Sports are the best. And the worst. And the best.
If we're really about to get Denver-Phoenix and Utah-Dallas in the conference semis... a lot of people will complain & say that's boring, but those are 4 pretty fascinating (and good!!) teams.
More to the point, it's not their fault they were better than the 4 teams they beat.
Just went through the Twitters and Instas of the 17 guys who played at least 100 Jazz minutes this season... so far the only ONE who I've seen say anything at all directed at Quin Snyder is Joe Ingles, who's no longer on the team.
I don't think people are talking enough about how the Jazz have been w/o 1 or more of Mitchell/Conley/Clarkson for EIGHTEEN straight, and they have a +10.0 efficiency differential over those 18 games, best in the league since April 8. Huge story.
Rudy Gobert is averaging 18 & 15 over his last 11 games, on 75% shooting from the floor. But let's talk some more about how he "doesn't have a post game" like it's 19frickin97.
I don't think it is an exaggeration to say that these next 2 games in Salt Lake are the most consequential Jazz games since 1999. In terms of implications to the future & the contention window, I can't think of any game this century with as many potentially tectonic implications.
My $.02:
There is absolutely no use in doing the Team Rudy and Team Don thing, because the Jazz absolutely can't reach the highest heights without both guys. Which was actually part of Rudy's point, methinks.
Before a second comes off the clock in Jazz-Rox, let me go on the record as saying this season is already a total success for Utah. Everything they've dealt with over the last 12 months and they're right back to where they were last May.
Remarkable group and season.
Jazz fans, you're going to want to hang onto this link...
@JakeRexLee
looked at a TON of metrics to parse the Gobert-Simmons DPOY debate, the conclusion is pretty clear. Ben is having a very nice defensive year. Rudy's having a historically dominant one.
Mitchell is the first Jazz player since Feb-March 1995 (Malone-13) to have a streak of 12 or more games with at least 24 points. The longest such Jazz streak (20) is also the Mailman's, back in March-April 1990.
The only other player with such a streak this season is Harden.
See Ingram's left arm wrapped around Rudy's back, pulling Gobert into him before the arm contact? That's probably why no call here. Hard to blame Gobert for contact when he begins his contest in a legal guarding position but then was pulled sideways into the player with the ball.
Leader.
That there are even a tiny few tweeps tonight questioning what Rudy brings to his club is insane. He is a top-10 player. Sure, he's had struggles of late. I've even documented some of them. It happens.
Dude is still the best thing to happen to the Jazz this century.
Rudy Gobert: “People overreact to winning and losing — the idea is to keep getting better. ... It’s all about where we’re gonna be when the playoffs come.”
This guy doesn't play for the Utah Jazz anymore.
Been away this weekend and I'm not sure it has really landed for me yet. No matter what the Jazz do with all those assets, losing a player of Gobert's caliber is something it's going to take them a long time to recover from.
I’ll say this about Toronto. Most years, no matter who wins, I watch the celebration and go, “oh THAT guy gets to say he’s an NBA champion now?!” Don’t feel that at all watching these guys. Just no assholes on that team. Easy to be genuinely happy for Marc, for Kyle, etc.
Anthony Edwards said it was disrespectful that Utah guarded Karl-Anthony Towns with Bojan Bogdanovic
Edwards said no one in the league can guard KAT, and that KAT needs to attack quicker and stop waiting for the double team. He said he needs to attack quick like Joel Embiid does
Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert combined to score all of the Jazz's first 19 points of the game.
Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley combined to score all of the Jazz's final 19 points of the game.
Four players chose to stay in / come back to Utah this past offseason, and all four of them referenced Quin Snyder as a primary reason they believe in what's happening there.
Now Quin is about to rub elbows (from 6 feet away) with 24 of the league's best.
I'm waiting for basketball's version of Tony Romo, someone who's going to step in the booth and spare us all the "there goes that man" bullshit and just say, "OK, here's what they're about to run and why, and here are the choices of how you can try to guard it."
FYI, Donovan Mitchell is 5th all-time in combined NBA/ABA history in playoff points per game. Higher than LeBron. Than Steph. Than AD, Dame, Harden, Melo, Kyrie, Giannis...
The only players in history to average better than his current 28.9: MJ, AI, KD and the Logo. That's it.
Last 2 teams standing are the
#1
and
#2
regular season defenses.
For all the talk abt the Jazz's contrasting personalities/philosophies, the part that absolutely needs to be said more is this: Rudy's right.
Utah HAS to be more committed on that end to be a serious contender.
All night long against the Jazz, Giannis was driving with his shoulder down and/or forearm out to generate an advantage. The Jazz were upset he wasn't getting called. But watch when he tries to do it against Fav and he just doesn't move. This is solid, solid D.
If you're not having fun, Jazz fans, you might be allergic to fun-having.
No idea how this will end, but try to not lose sight of the fact that these are the good times.
What's frustrating is that with RG/HW in the game, the guards act like they couldn't possibly be asked to stay in front of the ball & execute switches properly. They go small for a few minutes & suddenly they find it in them. Back to Gobert, and back to matador D from the guards.
Anthony Edwards shot 3-for-10 last season when guarded by Gobert. Tonight he was 0-for-2 with Gobert on him.
That's 25% shooting in 4 career meetings. I wonder what % he would have to shoot against Gobert to start having fear in his heart.
Anthony Edwards said the best rim protector in the league is Kristaps Porzingis. On Rudy Gobert, Ant was honest ...
'Anytime I go against Porzingis, I don’t get no layups. I don’t get why we couldn’t finish on Rudy Gobert. He don’t put no fear in my heart. I don’t know why."
People taking this as a sign that Hardy is over Sexton are drawing the exact wrong conclusion. If you've ever been around an NBA coach/team at all, that is not what is happening here. You don't go spend this time delivering direct feedback DURING THE GAME if you're not invested.
Gay is a switchable, floor-spacing 6'8" 4 who can guard big bodies. He's well above average guarding iso scorers (84th %ile) & P&R handlers (72nd).
Positive D metrics overall + he shoots 39% on C&S 3s. He's almost 35, but still contributes a lot. Matches most of what Utah needed.
Lue just completely changing his rotation up in every single half of this series. He's just absolutely guessing. It's weird.
Also, imagine being a PLAYER in that scenario. Never having any clue when you're going in, or if you're going to at all.
I wonder how many big men are capable of hedging high on the left to stop Dame, then hedging high on the right vs Simons, then getting back to Nurk straight away, sinking into the key as CJ goes baseline, cutting off Nance on other side of lane, then getting back to box out Nurk.
Suggestion: errbody go watch what Kerr was most concerned w/ during the fracas. He was completely focused on getting Dray to let go. No cap, there's video. So if Dray was just protecting Klay or whatever, why does Kerr immediately run to try to break up Dray + Gobert?
Steve Kerr: "There is no way Klay should have been ejected. That's ridiculous ... as far as the Draymond part , Rudy had his hands on Klay's neck. That's why Draymond went after Rudy."
It's just as likely that Gobert contracted it from Mitchell, or that they both contracted it from some third party, or different parties. We just don't know. It's irresponsible to paint a picture of culpability based on what we know now.
LOL. Exactly 1 of Kleber's 6 fouls came on a box-out... this one, where as soon as the shot goes up, Kleber turns around to find Gobert & puts both arms around him. He already had 3 fouls at this point, late 2nd qtr.
Sorry it's hard for you to figure out this is illegal, Jason.
Asked about Maxi Kleber’s Game 4 foul trouble, Jason Kidd worked the refs a bit: “Some of those fouls are trying to block out Gobert. We’re trying to figure out what the ruling is on boxing out and then teach our players what the correct way of boxing out is.”
There's no better game to encapsulate the Jordan Clarkson experience than that one. All of it.
The good. The ugly. The titillating. The frustrating. The awesome. The suboptimal. The breathtaking. All wrapped into the same 35 minutes.
2News asked an official how much it would cost to give kids free school lunch in Utah.
"It would be millions of dollars," she replied.
@ArielleHarrison
Jazz's elimination series in the Quin Snyder era:
2017: No Hill for final 3 games
2018: No Rubio
2019: (Mostly healthy)
2020: No Bogey, Conley missed 2
2021: Conley missed 5, Mitchell hurt in G2
Not saying anything else because I don't want to jinx it... but also, LFG.
It is possible for everybody in a given situation to be in the wrong. Like, it's awful to say awful things to an NBA player and still not OK for that player to threaten violence against a woman from 20 feet away. Neither side gets to feel justified tonight. Period.
Last 6 minutes for Mitchell:
-Laser pass to Bogey for 3
-Pull-up 3
-Pushes in trans, sets up Jingles 3
-FT
-Pull-up 3
-That wicked ankle-breaker 3
-Back-to-back alley-oops to Gobert for exclamation point
10 pts, 4 ast (for 10 pts). Jazz 21-11 in those 6 minutes.
Crazy that a broadcast would still at this point refer to Gobert as a "solid NBA player," or a "defense & rebounding" guy, or someone who "can't do a lot on offense but runs the floor." (All real examples.)
Crazier that they'd do it while he's putting up 27 & 12.
#allnba
Lauri is simply too good for the Jazz to find their way anywhere close to the bottom. Even on a "bad" night, he just falls into 27 pts on 17 shots. Holy crap.
Expect Utah to rest him some in these final 20--not necessarily to lose, but to take looks @ other guys & let LM chill.
Fun trivia that probably nobody cares about except me:
Gobert blocked 4 shots tonight and got 4 different players, and all of them were new additions to his block list: Sexton, Garland, Hartenstein and Dotson.
Up to 429 different NBA players blocked now.
I try not to fall into the thing where I think there's only one guy who can help the Jazz. But honestly, it's hard to think of a realistic FA target who would have been a more perfect fit for everything they needed than Rudy Gay, at least on paper. The Jazz did well today.
When your superstar offensive player is leading the way with defensive effort & executing the game plan well, it's going to infect everybody on the court.
Don's defensive performance deserves a 📽️🧵. Get cozy.
This is great! Kyle Korver on Donovan Mitchell.
"I have never been around a young player like him. I have never seen someone so young take ownership of a team, take ownership of his play...Never seen that in my 16 years in the NBA."
Via
@Larsen_ESPN
Lakers' path to the 2020 title didn't include a single opponent who was top 5 in Net Rtg. They faced Por (18th), Hou (8th), Den (11th), Mia (7th).
In the last quarter century, every single champ has faced at least 1 top-5 opponent on the way, and most have played 2-3 of them.
BTW, this could be sneaky big for Utah if it happens. Players who spend time around Quin love him. Now put him around 12 of the game's 24 biggest stars for a weekend. Could help change the way Utah is perceived for guys like that to see a bit of what makes players love him.